Powrtouch mover repair

Dunclair replied on 30/10/2018 21:50

Posted on 30/10/2018 21:50

This post is only going to be useful to you if you have a reasonable amount of mechanical ability, basic electrics and the appropriated sockets, allan keys and other kit. You will also need plenty of cleaning cloths together with cleaning fluid and a tub of general purpose grease.

I have a series 4 mover on our van. It is a brilliant piece of kit but has just suffered a horrible event.

I was moving the van on site getting ready to leave. There was a dip in the hard standing of the sort that had never bothered the mover before. However, it seemed to get stuck, there were some intermittent jerks then an awful grinding, crunching noise. That side of the mover stopped working although I could hear the motor turning.

Reverting back to the old way, I got the van hitched up and we came home. I served a proper apprenticeship, which reveals my age, so after reviewing Powrtouch's very helpful website, I set about taking the mover apart.

Cutting to the chase, I found that there is a coupling between the electric motor and the primary (worm and wheel) gearbox. The coupling, which is made of aluminium with a rubber type shock absorber, had broken up.

I called Powrtouch and explained the situation - I needed a new coupling. No deal! You must buy the whole assembly at the very reasonable price (!) of £150. However, it was sort of hinted that golf buggies use the same kind of connector between motor and gearbox. I declined the offer of buying a new assembly and did a tinternet search for golf buggy couplings.I found one and bought it for a fiver on the chance that it would fit. It did - perfectly.

The next issue was to discover why the original had broken. From the conversation I had with Powrtouch, I got the impression that this happens not infrequently so it was important to discover the reason and prevent a repetition. The very simple answer is pure, old fashioned dirt. The bearings of the roller that contacts the tyre had become almost seized up with the ingress of years of dust and grit. When it was dismantled from the whole assembly, it was difficult to turn, I gave the bearings a good washing of lubricant which transformed it into a form of spinning top. I also noticed that there was quite a lot of small grit in the teeth of the secondary gears which wouldn't have helped. The combination of the two were obviously too much for my coupling.

So how does all of this help you? Get a tin of WD40 with a little straw thing that fits. Run the motor mover forwards and backwards (without actually engaging it to the wheel) whilst spraying at the ends of the roller. The idea is to flush out accumulated dirt and grit from the very simple bearings. Of course, be somewhat careful not to get WD40 on your tyre as it doesn't help their well-being or longevity.

Dismantling the mover is neither as simple or as clean as the Powrmover site suggests, but Percy Veerence and some agility is a big help if you call on his services. Remember lots of grease on the sliders when you reassemble!

I hope this helps someone. (Oh, if you think that I am wrong or want to talk about warranties, T and Cs or other negative comments, please keep them to yourself. The result will not help your self esteem.)

 

EmilysDad replied on 30/10/2018 22:14

Posted on 30/10/2018 22:14

A result! All for the sake of a bit of time & an inexpensive part. You had a goosed mover ... the worse that could happen is you ended up with a goosed mover 😉

Hakinbush replied on 31/10/2018 08:52

Posted on 31/10/2018 08:52

Another small tip is get some MO 94 from halfords its for cycle chains and the gears on the back wheel, very similar to WD 40 I give the sliders and tyre roller "not the actual part that touches the tyre"but nearer the mover it self a good spray, seems to keep mine working fine..

Hedgehurst replied on 31/10/2018 15:50

Posted on 31/10/2018 15:50

This seems truly helpful, Dunclair  And by the end I'm reassured - you start by saying we'll need a fair amount of tools and engineering competence to benefit from your post. I have neither, but can do simple stuff logically!

Our Powrtouch mover... I can't tell you just now which series it might be, but it was fitted some time since 2000 and I think well before 2016 when we bought the caravan ... grinds away more noisily than I think it should, and sometimes one roller revolves without actually powering one of the wheels to do any uphill moving.

Our local engineer reckons, as your initial call to the company suggested, that it's not an item you repair, just replace, and that's not cheap. But if applying WD40 at the end of the roller helps it to move more easily, then even if this doesn't help it engage better on the wheel, that's a good start. Next time I have an opportunity to work on the 'van I'll try that.

If you or others have a fix for improving its purchase on the tyre I'll be very glad to hear that, too smile

Thanks,

Mitsi Fendt replied on 31/10/2018 17:40

Posted on 31/10/2018 17:40

May I suggest posting a film on you tube about this maybe with a demonstration for those like myself with less skills than the OP.

crown green bowler replied on 31/10/2018 19:49

Posted on 31/10/2018 19:49

A very helpful post.  I have used motorbike chain oil on the sliders inside and outside to keep them moving more freely,  but never thought about the drive rollers,  but will do those in future.  Many thanks.

redface replied on 31/10/2018 21:47

Posted on 31/10/2018 21:47

The really annoying thing is that caravan dealers will not service them when you take your van in for its annual going over!

The only other thing I have noticed is that if one tyre is soft then the diameter may well have shrunk slightly thus giving rise to a problem on one side.

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Posted on 01/11/2018 08:06

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ocsid replied on 01/11/2018 08:48

Posted on 01/11/2018 08:48

The only other thing I have noticed is that if one tyre is soft then the diameter may well have shrunk slightly thus giving rise to a problem on one side.

That happens to be a big plus.

It "should" alert anyone not to even try and tow the van, potentially wrecking that tyre and worst.

Hedgehurst replied on 01/11/2018 12:46

Posted on 31/10/2018 21:47 by redface

The really annoying thing is that caravan dealers will not service them when you take your van in for its annual going over!

The only other thing I have noticed is that if one tyre is soft then the diameter may well have shrunk slightly thus giving rise to a problem on one side.

Posted on 01/11/2018 12:46

In my case the tyre's not soft, it's at its prescribed pressure. So unless we've somehow got a tyre marginally under the diameter of whatever was on when the mover was fitted, I'm thinking I maybe need to find a way of moving the roller's position relative to the wheel. Dunno if that's possible.

 

ocsid replied on 01/11/2018 13:03

Posted on 01/11/2018 12:46 by Hedgehurst

In my case the tyre's not soft, it's at its prescribed pressure. So unless we've somehow got a tyre marginally under the diameter of whatever was on when the mover was fitted, I'm thinking I maybe need to find a way of moving the roller's position relative to the wheel. Dunno if that's possible.

 

Posted on 01/11/2018 13:03

There will be a clamping system, together with an additional back stop clamp block that holds the mover to each chassis rail. These allow the mover rollers each to be set to the right distance from the tyres. Usually this is set by using a spacer wooded block between the roller and tyre.

It would be expected to reset the mover on tyre replacement, or if the mover gets knocked.

Edit: This should help:

http://www.powrtouch.com/pdf/Roller%20Gap%20Adjustment.pdf

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