Orange electrical cable

alann replied on 13/05/2016 18:16

Posted on 13/05/2016 18:16

Hi

I have scoured the discussion for the answer  but cannot find a comment. 

We have the usual orange 25 metre cable, how do you wind it? We have used an old hose reel, the usual orange wheel with the handle (cant recall its name), but when the cable is cold its awful, similarly the connectors get in the way of the cable being reeled in.....suggestions?

KJLC replied on 20/05/2016 07:52

Posted on 20/05/2016 07:52

I took my first 25 mtr hookup cable and cut it to make one 10mtr mength and one 15 mtr length and bought a male and female connector and duly fitted them hence having two lengths of cable. On pretty much every club site either will more than adequate, if it is necessary one can plug one into the other and you will have your 25mtr back again and either have a purpose connection box that the joint will fit into to protect against rain or wrap a bag around the connection to do a similiar job. The short cable either one then can be easily coiled. I have a damp cloth in my right hand around the cable and one end in my left hand and just pull the cable through the cloth with my left hand to clean it and just make several medium coils and then just pop it into the 'van on the floor before I close the door because when you get onto site it takes a few seconds to take it out and either connect straight away or just put it outside until you are ready to connect it. I did at a later date buy a second hand almost new 25mtr cable to add to my kit in case on a CL or CS site I needed it but to date have never needed to use it. The 10mtr, 15mtr or on a few ocassions both have alway sufficed and coiling took but a few minutes to clean, coil and pop into the van before finally closing the door and moving off. With two shorter lengths it is far easier to coil either one, less than half or just over half of a 25mtr length. 

In many, many cases 25mtr's is far more than needed and one can always see metres and metres of cable looped on the ground or stuffed under the caravan, far more cable than you know what to do with.   

SteveL replied on 20/05/2016 08:45

Posted on 20/05/2016 08:45

Whilst I have been guilty of joining cables, particularly abroad, where it can be common practice. Members should note it is outlawed on club sites. The following is extracted from the clubs Hooking up to the mains leaflet.

B* CONNECTING CABLE harmonised code H07RN-F or H05VV-F or equivalent (BS6007 or 6500) 25 metres maximum (+ or – 2 metres) long of three core cable (live (brown), neutral (blue) and earth (green/yellow)) each core of 2.5mm2 section. Shorter cables may not reach from the bollard to your van on some sites and extra connector cables to

add length are not allowed. The Club cannot accept responsibility for any damage or injury caused by the use of extra connector cables. It is recommended that the cable is coloured orange for visibility in long grass. 

 I would have thought the risks minimal, particularly if an approved waterproof cover is used. However, it is not allowed. We carry a 10 metre and a 25 metre and the only time I have used them both on a CC site was when an EHU became faulty and I had to use a spare socket on another post.

KJLC replied on 20/05/2016 09:59

Posted on 20/05/2016 09:59

Whilst I have been guilty of joining cables, particularly abroad, where it can be common practice. Members should note it is outlawed on club sites. The following is extracted from the clubs Hooking up to the mains leaflet.

B* CONNECTING CABLE harmonised code H07RN-F or H05VV-F or equivalent (BS6007 or 6500) 25 metres maximum (+ or – 2 metres) long of three core cable (live (brown), neutral (blue) and earth (green/yellow)) each core of 2.5mm2 section. Shorter cables may not reach from the bollard to your van on some sites and extra connector cables to

add length are not allowed. The Club cannot accept responsibility for any damage or injury caused by the use of extra connector cables. It is recommended that the cable is coloured orange for visibility in long grass. 

 I would have thought the risks minimal, particularly if an approved waterproof cover is used. However, it is not allowed. We carry a 10 metre and a 25 metre and the only time I have used them both on a CC site was when an EHU became faulty and I had to use a spare socket on another post.

That is applicable to club sites it doesn't mean to say that they cannot be used on CL's & CS 's or abroad if necessary. However I believe a 15 mtr would suffice on 99% of club sites but it doesn't bother me anyway because I don't use club sites.

volvoman9 replied on 20/05/2016 10:20

Posted on 20/05/2016 10:20

For me this type of ruleing is just another case of the CC covering its backside instead of takeing a common sense and practicle approach.As a retired spark i can tell you that the electrical equipment used in the UK is second too none unlike many of the lashups i have seen on the continant.Not allowing connectors in hookup leads is an outdated and archaic line of thinking.

peter.

KJLC replied on 20/05/2016 10:25

Posted on 20/05/2016 10:25

Whilst I have been guilty of joining cables, particularly abroad, where it can be common practice. Members should note it is outlawed on club sites. The following is extracted from the clubs Hooking up to the mains leaflet.

B* CONNECTING CABLE harmonised code H07RN-F or H05VV-F or equivalent (BS6007 or 6500) 25 metres maximum (+ or – 2 metres) long of three core cable (live (brown), neutral (blue) and earth (green/yellow)) each core of 2.5mm2 section. Shorter cables may not reach from the bollard to your van on some sites and extra connector cables to

add length are not allowed. The Club cannot accept responsibility for any damage or injury caused by the use of extra connector cables. It is recommended that the cable is coloured orange for visibility in long grass. 

 I would have thought the risks minimal, particularly if an approved waterproof cover is used. However, it is not allowed. We carry a 10 metre and a 25 metre and the only time I have used them both on a CC site was when an EHU became faulty and I had to use a spare socket on another post.

This just goes to show that rules can be ignored even on club sites! Obviously the warden must have been aware that your bollard was out of order and yet permitted the use of connecting two cables which contradicts the rule. I agree that with an approved weatherproof connection box that the risks would be minimal in fact I would go so far as to say the risks would be nil.

Merve replied on 24/05/2016 14:46

Posted on 24/05/2016 14:46

Something I will never have to worry about again if I ever did! You just don't need one if you go non EHU with the right kit. 

KJLC replied on 25/05/2016 07:12

Posted on 25/05/2016 07:12

Something I will never have to worry about again if I ever did! You just don't need one if you go non EHU with the right kit. 

Hi, What is the right kit? will it run all 240v mains appliances efficiently including a TV, satellite receiver, kettle, electric fan heater, independant battery charger etc.etc. I would be interested to know what replaces EHU, thanks. 

IamtheGaitor replied on 25/05/2016 07:18

Posted on 25/05/2016 07:18

We have run two joined 25m cables before now - even done it on a CC site.  I do not go anywhere without my orange umbilical - one of my main pleasures on holiday is sitting reading and the 12v lights dont give me enough light, even with my kindle voyage which is supposed to operate in the dark, so hook up is a must for me.

 

Boff replied on 25/05/2016 07:22

Posted on 25/05/2016 07:22

Something I will never have to worry about again if I ever did! You just don't need one if you go non EHU with the right kit. 

Hi, What is the right kit? will it run all 240v mains appliances efficiently including a TV, satellite receiver, kettle, electric fan heater, independant battery charger etc.etc. I would be interested to know what replaces EHU, thanks. 

Well seeing as you asked:

TV, satellite receiver,   12v versions are available

kettle, electric fan heater,  Gas

independant battery charger  Solar Panel

Well that's what I do at least

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