Morrison’s now accepting Safefill

Posted on 06/08/2018 11:31 by Merve

This is for the benefit of all those who have been reading this thread. I have done some checking and what I have said in previous posts is about correct- a leisure cylinder - it all depends on the quantity of gas being carried- if the regs covered every drop of LPG that is needed to be moved, none of us would be able to go on holiday with a cylinder so the ADR regs (the regs that the world conforms to) recognise this and allow for smaller quantities to be moved without problems or registering for a licence etc. if you were wanting to carry 200lts plus, then you too would need to go through all sorts of rules and regs covering everything from tyres on the vehicle, the vehicle being labelled as carrying compressed gas,  to training and competence of your driving - and the inspection of the cylinders is the same sort of logic, where you own a leisure cylinder and Safefills for example are classed as leisure cylinders, the inspection period is advisory only as its not something that can be policed and its only a small quantity of LPG involved. if you dont get your cylinder checked after say 10 years as Safeill advise, no one is going to jump on you, but for your own piece of mind, you may want to get it done. Again, it may work out more expensive than buying a brand new cylinder but its a grey area at the moment as we have no costings on it. if it was, whats the problem of buying a new cylinder when it has saved you 10 times the cost of the cylinder in rental and gas charges. If you wanted to start renting these things out then again, you would come under the ADR regs Look at it as a way of oiling the machinery so that LPG can be moved about (in small quantities).  

Posted on 05/08/2018 13:58 by

The regulation for the periodic testing of composite LPG cylinders is enshrined in the following, a similar regulation covers steel and alloy cylinders.  It makes no distinction between class of use (commercial or leisure) and covers sizes with a water capacity from 0,5 l up to 450 l.

Quote:

ISO 11623:2015 specifies the requirements for periodic inspection and testing and to verify the integrity for further service of hoop-wrapped and fully-wrapped composite transportable gas cylinders, with aluminium-alloy, steel or non-metallic liners or of linerless construction (Types 2, 3, 4, and 5), intended for compressed, liquefied or dissolved gases under pressure, of water capacity from 0,5 l up to 450 l.

Posted on 06/08/2018 18:14 by SteveL

Is there anywhere I can read what the ISO says without purchasing it DD. It won't let me beyond what you have quoted above without parting with the cash.

The only reference I can find relating to 5 year testing of composite cylinders refers to breathing apparatus ones, as used by the fire brigade.

I was looking at getting a refillable of some kind. However, I think I require a bit more clarity on how often they should be inspected first. 

Posted on 06/08/2018 18:14 by SteveL

Is there anywhere I can read what the ISO says without purchasing it DD. It won't let me beyond what you have quoted above without parting with the cash.

The only reference I can find relating to 5 year testing of composite cylinders refers to breathing apparatus ones, as used by the fire brigade.

I was looking at getting a refillable of some kind. However, I think I require a bit more clarity on how often they should be inspected first. 

Posted on 06/08/2018 18:14 by SteveL

Is there anywhere I can read what the ISO says without purchasing it DD. It won't let me beyond what you have quoted above without parting with the cash.

The only reference I can find relating to 5 year testing of composite cylinders refers to breathing apparatus ones, as used by the fire brigade.

I was looking at getting a refillable of some kind. However, I think I require a bit more clarity on how often they should be inspected first. 

Posted on 06/08/2018 18:14 by SteveL

Is there anywhere I can read what the ISO says without purchasing it DD. It won't let me beyond what you have quoted above without parting with the cash.

The only reference I can find relating to 5 year testing of composite cylinders refers to breathing apparatus ones, as used by the fire brigade.

I was looking at getting a refillable of some kind. However, I think I require a bit more clarity on how often they should be inspected first. 

Posted on 06/08/2018 18:14 by SteveL

Is there anywhere I can read what the ISO says without purchasing it DD. It won't let me beyond what you have quoted above without parting with the cash.

The only reference I can find relating to 5 year testing of composite cylinders refers to breathing apparatus ones, as used by the fire brigade.

I was looking at getting a refillable of some kind. However, I think I require a bit more clarity on how often they should be inspected first. 

Posted on 06/08/2018 19:12 by

You are obviously a young man Steve 

My take is if it doesn't pay for itself for me in 5 years I can't be faffed. If it doesn't pay for itself in 10 years then definitely not worth the effort of going off site or out from home for a refill as far as gas is concerned.