CLs instead of Club sites

It also stated, which you omitted, that this may not be possible? And really if it were that little the club wouldn't say it would be prohibitively expensive.

It is still £200,000 that I'd rather be spent on more pitches and or better facilities. Something that people might enjoy and benefit from?

Outlay would be covered? Could you explain how? I am at a loss as to how? If there is less electricity used (and I'm not sure there would be) then the club will pay less for that electricity. If a pitch uses £20 per stay now that is what the club pays, and it goes down to £15 say that is what the club will pay. It cannot get anything back?

As I keep saying it's been decided so we'll just have to live with it. There are I understand plenty of sites that have meters, use those if one dislikes meters so much.

The club offers an all inclusive price, just like hotels, holiday accommodation, restaurants, package holidays...  one can either accept it or not.

 

On a Peak Dist. site this summer, an independent site, I was initially put off by the pre-pay meter, which seemed to swallow our first couple of 25p cards quite quickly, but later realised that we'd paid out less overall for the 3 night weekend than the £4 or £5 / night charged by many sites for EHU.

I think metering of some kind has to be the way to go ultimately. From a Club and visitor point of view, it would demonstrate a clear commitment towards the environment, and might just be a practical deterrent in terms of over use of electricity.
The Club has relied upon its friendly message of asking folks to be mindful about power consumption for years, but given the impact of electrical contracts on the pricing policy recently, surely it has to be better that folks can opt in or out of how much they want to pay, beyond the initial pitch fee? At least metering gives everyone that choice, rather than a blanket price applied to every visit, regardless of outfit size, cooking choice, how warm you want to be, etc.... it’s how our homes work, you pay for what you use, so why not apply the same for our touring homes?

I would say that IMO, facilities on Club sites are fine.

There seems to be a divide between those who want more/better facilities, and those who want the money spent on other things.   I would  agree with purchasing more sites, as long as they offer value for money, but would hold off upgrading sites unless absolutely necessary.

On metering use, I tend towards pay for what you use, even though as we have a larger van with Alde heating, we would possibly pay more.   It is  our choice what we use, and no reason why we should not pay for our use......we already so so at home.  Why should being on holiday mean we should be profligate?

If you think that being on holiday means you can do as you please and ignore global warming, then you need to think again.

I certainly think se who 'off grid'...perhaps THS etc, are more mindful of the resources they use on site.

due to the time we spend on sites without fully plumbed in services, we propbably 'eke out' our resources (water, leccy) as second nature....even simple things like cleaning teeth not under a running tap or washing up in a small bowl of water...sometimes saving coffee cups to wash up later with dinner things etc.

it's the same with the leccy, lights go off when not being used, just like at home.

we like to think we don't waste things if it's as simple as flicking a switch or turning off a tap..

this isn't 'bragging/preaching' merely how we are....not 'greens' but don't like waste.

as TDDA mentions, the 'please don't' message from the club is all well and good but is it working in a world where all modern vans have ever more electrical kit with owners having ever more gadgets...

while moving all our eggs into the leccy basket is wonderful if cheap, plentiful and green, it ain't so good if it's expensive, limited and 'less green'...

Club sites might be able to use solar to offset some of the cost of running the office and facilities blocks, some rooftop kit is aiding hot water production but club solar (on site) won't run multiple pitches at 16A.

perhaps the time is right for those who have mobile solar with them to disconnect from the current pricing regime and contribute to the overall reduction in electric use...

yes, it wont 'save the club money' but it might reduce the overall grid requirement which has to be a good thing in its own right?

a non-EHU option saving a few quid might add up to something worthwhile across the network?

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Yes, THS sites with no handy water access after the first van fill, turns us into 'caravaners' as we have to lug water too...

fortunately, it's not for 5/6 days after arrival but, as you say, changes perspective.

we're certainly not out to save the planet but don't like waste...

BB a lot of Caravans have large fresh water tanks. Mine in fact holds 2.5 Aquarolls which is a lot of water enabling a lot of showers before refill. I/we eat out so the water is used mainly for showering. Perhaps then turning you into a Caravaner may be a good thing, less water carrying equals more cycling. 

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No doubt you fill it at the MHSP on arrival....surely you don't go and get one Aquaroll at a time and then pump it into the tank.....repeat as necessary?

we do plenty of cycling thanks....just clicked over 18,000 km on this latest bike.

catching up the MH😉

I was out the other day and had the bike computer on trip distance....for no real reason flipped it to total miles (use miles when 'here') and was stunned to see a display of '11111'....I actually thought there was a fault...

a few seconds later it clicked to '11112'....

anyway, the point was that 'going easy' on resources does seem to come easier to those who've had to be a little careful with them due to touring style...