Autogas, a concern?

mickysf replied on 30/03/2019 15:59

Posted on 30/03/2019 15:59

We swapped to an on board autogas tank a while ago hoping to save time and money in the long run but we are noticing that many garages are having the refill facilities removed from their forecourts. It is now being suggested by several other owners that this is a growing trend and it is becoming a problem as they are finding it increasingly harder to locate providers whilst out and about on their tours. Have I made a mistake?

Justus2 replied on 31/03/2019 08:48

Posted on 31/03/2019 08:48

 Yes DD, This is the one I had seen >> 

https://www.gasit.co.uk/gas-it-reserved-gas-supply-hose-system-pol.html

Yes, as I understand it once the vans tank is empty gas from the external bottle can flow, first into the tank and then to the van's appliances but no actual liquid gas is transferred, just vapour ( gas) ..

Not ideal if you stop in a lay-by on the way and I'm sure I read somewhere that the club's don't like external free standing bottles....undecided

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Justus2 replied on 31/03/2019 09:29

Posted on 31/03/2019 08:41 by

 There appear to be a few Autogas suppliers near me. I do notice that the pump at ASDA appears less used than say 10 years as I always use the same row of pumps at ASDA which includes the single Autogas point. Rarely see them used these days.

Posted on 31/03/2019 09:29

Yes, because LPG autogas was originally introduced as a conversion and cheaper alternative for gas guzzling petrol engined vehicles and was very popular.

Wasn't it then decided that diesel engines would be a marvellous alternative so lots of new cars were diesel, and again not so long ago, it was decided that actually to promote diesel was a mistake and what they meant to say was electric was best, but in the mean time LPG conversions for gas guzzlers proved far less attractive than a massive must have turbo diesel 4x4.....  undecided

Not trying to be political in anyway, just a tongue in cheek explanation as to why the demand for LPG has dwindled, but I expect that you already know that .. smile

young thomas replied on 31/03/2019 09:31

Posted on 31/03/2019 09:31

we have an Esso station selling LPG which we pass whenever we head east..

i am also a Countrywide account holder and there is a pump 2 miles away.

i use the MyLPG app (and Tomtom POIs) for europewide location.

i have one 11kg Gaslow (easily filled all over Europe) and a 'spare' slot for a second bottle if long terming, as we did in Spain and I used a Repsol 11kg to save driving to the pump...in Spain bottled gas is as cheap as LPG.

as it happens, I've never had a problem getting LPG anywhere but I am mindful of 'observations' of reducing availability in other parts of the U.K. although I am not in the least concerned and the continental advantages considerably outweigh any uk shrinkage of the the market.

young thomas replied on 31/03/2019 09:34

Posted on 31/03/2019 08:49 by

Maybe to embrace the open inclusion of motorhomes in CC Ltd they could install pumps on their sites linked to their bulk tanks.   

 

Posted on 31/03/2019 09:34

now that would be part of a proper MHSP....

and in the spirit of inclusivity, caravanners could fill their Safefil bottlessmile

whats not to likewink

ocsid replied on 31/03/2019 09:58

Posted on 31/03/2019 09:34 by young thomas

now that would be part of a proper MHSP....

and in the spirit of inclusivity, caravanners could fill their Safefil bottlessmile

whats not to likewink

Posted on 31/03/2019 09:58

I suspect that company that owns and refills those bulk storage tanks at club sites, is certainly not going to like that idea.

And somehow I think their interests rather than paying "members" will carry the sway here.

Could have completely misjudged how things work though.wink

Takethedogalong replied on 31/03/2019 10:15

Posted on 31/03/2019 10:15

Stays pays us (significantly) to keep our dual fuelled 4.0 litre petrol Jeep at the moment. We have two LPG outlets within 1.5 miles of home, and both still seem well used at the moment. Something to consider carefully if we ever change MHs though. Mind, by that time, electric power will probably be routine............😁

Justus2 replied on 31/03/2019 10:15

Posted on 31/03/2019 09:58 by ocsid

I suspect that company that owns and refills those bulk storage tanks at club sites, is certainly not going to like that idea.

And somehow I think their interests rather than paying "members" will carry the sway here.

Could have completely misjudged how things work though.wink

Posted on 31/03/2019 10:15

I regularly fill our tank at a local BATA Calor main dealer out of their Calor bulk tank via an LPG pump and sometimes out of a Flogas tank at a BP garage. The other side of the argument of not liking the idea, is that once you have an under-slung tank or refillable bottles, you're not going to be buying Calor bottles anyway, so to sell you just the gas is better than nowt as they say.. wink  

JVB66 replied on 31/03/2019 10:33

Posted on 31/03/2019 08:49 by

Maybe to embrace the open inclusion of motorhomes in CC Ltd they could install pumps on their sites linked to their bulk tanks.   

 

Posted on 31/03/2019 10:33

Would the price of LPG that the club pay be the same price to "members" via an on site pump,or as a normal retail outlet surprised

SteveL replied on 31/03/2019 10:45

Posted on 31/03/2019 10:33 by JVB66

Would the price of LPG that the club pay be the same price to "members" via an on site pump,or as a normal retail outlet surprised

Posted on 31/03/2019 10:45

I would think it would have to be a fair bit more expensive JVB. The cost of putting in the pump, plus the roadway to the filling point, as many aren't that accessible, unless you've a filling hose like the tankers, would have to be recouped somehow. 

A good idea though and I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for the convience.

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