Type of gas bottle

Astro76 replied on 31/08/2016 22:17

Posted on 31/08/2016 22:17

HI all.

I've just bought my first caravan and will be taking delivery in a couple of weeks.  At the end of october my first holiday (week long) is already booked.

That said, I know that the caravan will need a couple of gas bottles.   Having done a little bit of research (and using knowledge gained over years)   I'm rulling out Butane, as I don't like that it doesn't work well when it's cold.  As I'm interesting in getting away in the winter, I need to have something that will cope with low temperatures.

 

This leaves me with a few options.  I'm looking for large bottles of gas for my caravan, and there is a couple of options that I know about....

Calor lite or Safe fill.

I don't know how much these bottles will cost, or if I'll need to have two bottles straight away (if they're expensive, one bottle might be enough for now with me getting the second later on, the site does have electric hookup, so I'm only likley to use the gas for cooking)

 

I"m not sure what the best way to go would be, both options are my first thoughts.

What I'm looking for here is what other people think about these and maybe other options that I've not thought about.     My thoughts are initial costs for the bottles, and on going runnning costs.   For example, I know that a Safefill bottle is something like £150 ish when I looked, but if the Calor lite are much cheaper it might be a much better solution.   Also what about the weight, is the safefill lighter than the calor lite?    What about other bottle types?     (btw, I'm thinking about the big bottles 6Kg I think)

Fysherman replied on 05/09/2016 13:41

Posted on 05/09/2016 13:41

Good plan. Keep it simple until you find your feet.

Enjoy your new hobby.

young thomas replied on 05/09/2016 13:57

Posted on 05/09/2016 13:57

even when on ehu, it doesnt stop you having a 'play' at running your appliances for a short time using gas....just to get familiar with the controls etc...

so, gas hob easy....

hot water and heating need a bit more thought, depending on if Truma or Alde, but you should be able to manage

also you can get to understand how your electrical gadgets (tablet, phone etc) can be charged directly from a usb or other 12 v socket...similarly your tv....

practicing, for confidence, while with the safety of an ehu backup is a great way to get into 'off gridding' .

some CLs and the C&CC temp holiday sites only charge around £8-10 a night, so compared to a normal CC site £20-25  thats a minimum of a tenner a night saving....£70 ++ a week...

throw in your gas at a quarter of the Calor price, if you decide to go for a refillable, filled at a normal LPG pump and youre away....

i know you're new to this and dont want to overload you with info, but with solar power and cheap gas....who needs an orange cable? 

....and once you get tempted to go overseas......even better...Happy

 

Boff replied on 05/09/2016 14:09

Posted on 05/09/2016 14:09

Can you advise aswell why i would use more gas with solar panels (sorry not with it today and dont quite understand why) surely with a charge being delivered to the battery i would only be using Gas to cook with.

If you are on a non EHU site then you will be using your gas to run the fridge and heat the van. Our first Gaslight 10 kg lasted us more than a year but on a non EHU CL in late Sept last year we got through a half full cylinder in a week!

I have looked as the Safefill option and at the moment, for me, it is not viable due to the price I pay for refils of my Gaslight and the lack of places that I know I can refill the Safefill at. Should refilling become easier,that is more readily available,I would probably buy one 10kg cylinder and continue carrying my 6kg Gaslight that I use with the BBQ as back up.


Excellent thanks for that info, short term we will for sure be looking at EHU until become a bit more confident and experienced with the MH. Appreciate the input very much thank you. 

 

With respect I think you are making a mistake, if you don't go non EHU straight away then I don't think you will ever have the confidence to do it.  It isn't difficult.  But if you are to do it work out what the biggest gas bottle that will fit in your locker because the difference in cost of gas in 6kg bottle compared to an 11 or 13kg bottle is huge. 

Auchtavanner replied on 05/09/2016 16:12

Posted on 05/09/2016 16:12

Thanks all for your help and comments.

Boff, understand what your saying. I will have the confidence to go off grid with EHU in the future. Confident of that, infact already planning on it in spring time. I am real new never had a MH or Been in a tourer since i was a little kid, so everything  about this is new. So this is to make sure im not putting my family at risk in any way and to be confident of pressing the right buttons etc.

cyberyacht replied on 05/09/2016 17:15

Posted on 05/09/2016 17:15

The one caveat on the larger gas bottles is the possibility of factoring in your osteopath's bills. I 'inherited' a full 13Kg bottle but decided it was too heavy to wrestle with. By a bit of horsetrading with son-in-law, I swapped it for a quarter full gaslite one. 

Boff replied on 05/09/2016 17:50

Posted on 05/09/2016 17:50

Bolero Boy's suggestion is excellent.  There is nothing inherently dangerous about gas used sensibly, all gas appliances with the exception of the cooker must vent out side so all potentially hazardous gas is vented out  

 

briantimber replied on 05/09/2016 19:57

Posted on 05/09/2016 19:57

If starting from scratch, that is, buying your  first bottle, then I would definitely go for a refillable, be it Gaslow or Safefill. I swapped to Safefill over a year ago and am now "in credit" so to speak..... Don't forget that a hefty deposit is required on inital purchase from Calor, Flogas etc and this deminishes the longer you have the bottle, so in fact you never get your money back and pay for the pleasure of being fleeced by the big (and little) gas suppliers, With your own bottle, you stand a good chance of  recovering most of you outlay when selling, if you decide to, lots of people will buy them off you. You will also save approx. £20 per refill, do the maths...... I must  make it clear that this is my opinion and I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other. The choice is yours....Cool

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