Type of gas bottle

Astro76 replied on 31/08/2016 22:17

Posted on 31/08/2016 22:17

HI all.

I've just bought my first caravan and will be taking delivery in a couple of weeks.  At the end of october my first holiday (week long) is already booked.

That said, I know that the caravan will need a couple of gas bottles.   Having done a little bit of research (and using knowledge gained over years)   I'm rulling out Butane, as I don't like that it doesn't work well when it's cold.  As I'm interesting in getting away in the winter, I need to have something that will cope with low temperatures.

 

This leaves me with a few options.  I'm looking for large bottles of gas for my caravan, and there is a couple of options that I know about....

Calor lite or Safe fill.

I don't know how much these bottles will cost, or if I'll need to have two bottles straight away (if they're expensive, one bottle might be enough for now with me getting the second later on, the site does have electric hookup, so I'm only likley to use the gas for cooking)

 

I"m not sure what the best way to go would be, both options are my first thoughts.

What I'm looking for here is what other people think about these and maybe other options that I've not thought about.     My thoughts are initial costs for the bottles, and on going runnning costs.   For example, I know that a Safefill bottle is something like £150 ish when I looked, but if the Calor lite are much cheaper it might be a much better solution.   Also what about the weight, is the safefill lighter than the calor lite?    What about other bottle types?     (btw, I'm thinking about the big bottles 6Kg I think)

Fysherman replied on 02/09/2016 19:17

Posted on 02/09/2016 19:17

Spot on Astro. They are your bottles to do with as you want 

But some very experienced posters have tried to offer guidance. 

See you at Keilder sometime. I am also partial to a star party Happy

Astro76 replied on 02/09/2016 19:59

Posted on 02/09/2016 19:59

Spot on Astro. They are your bottles to do with as you want 

But some very experienced posters have tried to offer guidance. 

See you at Keilder sometime. I am also partial to a star party Happy

Hopefully it'll be Kielder next year.  I'm already booked for a week at the SGL star party in Hereford this year.

 

Back to the bottles.  I've got no intention of disconnecting them every time I use them, just need to make sure that the valves are properly closed.

HillClimb replied on 02/09/2016 23:30

Posted on 02/09/2016 23:30

As your very first respondant DavidKlyne said - it depends on usage.

Personally I went the Safefil route - I can just squeeze a 10kg Safefill in the gas-locker, only need one as I can see when it is getting low and it is easy for me to get it refilled before each trip. I did a post here  http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/community/discussions/welcome-hobby-talk/tips-for-making-caravanning-touring-cheaper/Safefill-10Kg/rt/1446515/ regarding my calculated break even - which I know from experience now will pay for itself after approx 6 fills (i.e. 60kg of gas). 

But as everyone has stated, if you mainly do EHU sites without need for gas heating then 60kg of gas could take a few years. Alternatively if you plan some non-EHU colder weather use then you could break-even within a year or 2

Astro76 replied on 03/09/2016 20:41

Posted on 03/09/2016 20:41

I bought a Safefill bottle today.   I can get it filled for about £10 at the same place where I would have exchanged a Calor lite bottle.  Whilst the bottle cost me £150, the refil is cheap, also I can refil at other places too - Hopefully safefill will be able to educate the main fuel companies.  In the meantime, if I find that there's a problem with me going thorugh alot of fuel (which is still an unknown) I'll simply get a second bottle.    The bottle itself is very light even when full.  So this will really help keep my caravans noseweight under control,  I can see myself having to put the heavy stuff in the front of my caravan to make the noseweight up to a good weight - means it'll make carrying my bike on the A-Frame easier.

Auchtavanner replied on 05/09/2016 10:55

Posted on 05/09/2016 10:55

I have just bought my mtorhome and the dealer advised that a 6kg calor bottle would be sufficient, I will probably turn to EHU sites more often than not, but the fact i have solar panels installed aslo will this negate the need for so much gas and be why i advised that a 6kg bottle will be enough?

 

Fysherman replied on 05/09/2016 11:08

Posted on 05/09/2016 11:08

With solar panels installed you are likely to use more gas as you will question why you are paying so much for sites with EHU and go to less expensive sites. You also pay proportionally more for gas with smaller exchange cylinders. 

Get the biggest gas bottles that will fit in your locker 

Auchtavanner replied on 05/09/2016 11:43

Posted on 05/09/2016 11:43

With solar panels installed you are likely to use more gas as you will question why you are paying so much for sites with EHU and go to less expensive sites. You also pay proportionally more for gas with smaller exchange cylinders. 

Get the biggest gas bottles that will fit in your locker 

Thanks for the info. In respect to the pricing of sites, I dont seem to see much of a difference between the ones i look at.

 

Can you advise aswell why i would use more gas with solar panels (sorry not with it today and dont quite understand why) surely with a charge being delivered to the battery i would only be using Gas to cook with.

allanandjean replied on 05/09/2016 12:18

Posted on 05/09/2016 12:18

Can you advise aswell why i would use more gas with solar panels (sorry not with it today and dont quite understand why) surely with a charge being delivered to the battery i would only be using Gas to cook with.

If you are on a non EHU site then you will be using your gas to run the fridge and heat the van. Our first Gaslight 10 kg lasted us more than a year but on a non EHU CL in late Sept last year we got through a half full cylinder in a week!

I have looked as the Safefill option and at the moment, for me, it is not viable due to the price I pay for refils of my Gaslight and the lack of places that I know I can refill the Safefill at. Should refilling become easier,that is more readily available,I would probably buy one 10kg cylinder and continue carrying my 6kg Gaslight that I use with the BBQ as back up.


DSB replied on 05/09/2016 13:00

Posted on 05/09/2016 13:00

I guess we are not big users of gas compared with some, so we go for 2 calorlite bottles.  I use one for 'the caravan' and one for the Cadac.  I was a bit concerned when we went on out 7 weeks tour of Europe.  The Caravan bottle was about half full and the Cadac bottle was just under half full.  I wondered about changing one, but didn't bother in the end.  The Cadac bottle (which we used much more frequently was virtually out when we packed up to head for Calais, but the Caravan one must have had a lot more in it as we hardly used it.  Fortunately we have one electric ring on the cooker which we used whenever we could (instead of the gas rings).

When the Cadac bottle runs out and I change it for a full one, that will be put on the caravan and the half empty one will go for the Cadac.  We always use more gas on the Cadac, so I always keep the fullest bottle connected to the van to ensure we don't run out.

David

Auchtavanner replied on 05/09/2016 13:28

Posted on 05/09/2016 13:28

Can you advise aswell why i would use more gas with solar panels (sorry not with it today and dont quite understand why) surely with a charge being delivered to the battery i would only be using Gas to cook with.

If you are on a non EHU site then you will be using your gas to run the fridge and heat the van. Our first Gaslight 10 kg lasted us more than a year but on a non EHU CL in late Sept last year we got through a half full cylinder in a week!

I have looked as the Safefill option and at the moment, for me, it is not viable due to the price I pay for refils of my Gaslight and the lack of places that I know I can refill the Safefill at. Should refilling become easier,that is more readily available,I would probably buy one 10kg cylinder and continue carrying my 6kg Gaslight that I use with the BBQ as back up.


Excellent thanks for that info, short term we will for sure be looking at EHU until become a bit more confident and experienced with the MH. Appreciate the input very much thank you. 

 

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