Lunar Clubman SB family of 4? (layout conundrum)

matlitel replied on 03/10/2016 11:29

Posted on 03/10/2016 11:29

Hi All

After rejecting a Sterling Eccles 590 last year we are now ready to place an order for a new van. At the time (last year) we felt the 590 with the end dinette and fixed bunks was the best layout as we have 2 kids (8 and 3) but I felt I was compromising space with that layout because of the central washroom.

However we had a look at the new Lunar Clubman SB (fixed beds) and we fell in love with it however I’m not sure if it would be suitable for a family of 4. My thinking is the kids would have the fixed beds and me and the other half would use the lounge double @ 6'11" x 5'0" which is slightly smaller than the Eccles.

My question really has anyone got experience with this layout and is it suitable for a young family? Also is the front double size suitable for adults? I’m 5’10” she’s smaller than me! Also, this is our first caravan so be gentle!! J

Navigateur replied on 04/10/2016 21:26

Posted on 04/10/2016 21:26

I do agree the accross the centre washrooms seem to be the best compromise to me but they are very new to the market. Not sure there are any with the two rear beds wanted here though.

A Sprite Major from the 1960s that I used had a centre washroom. A dinette at each end with centre kitchen was a very common and popular layout.

ValDa replied on 04/10/2016 21:49

Posted on 04/10/2016 21:49

I found the 'toilet/shower/ opposite the kitchen quite restricting when we had a 'family van' with rear bunks and front double dinette/double bed.  Everytime I was cooking someone wanted to use the loo, and there was just not enough room.  

I'd like to see a washroom which goes all the way across the van, dividing the caravan in two, with a central door from each 'area' (kids at the back) parents at the front. Shower at one side, loo and small basin at the other side.  That way there wouldn't be the 'nip point' of the kitchen and bathroom being opposite each other.

Perhaps a suggestion for a new design?

replied on 05/10/2016 07:40

Posted on 05/10/2016 07:40

I do agree the accross the centre washrooms seem to be the best compromise to me but they are very new to the market. Not sure there are any with the two rear beds wanted here though.

A 2012 Lunar had fixed rear single beds, chest of drawers at both ends and washroom in centre. The washroom had a seperate shower cpmpartment that you stepped into from the washroom. It would have provided a seperate area where the kids could have a table up. 

Wildwood replied on 05/10/2016 22:38

Posted on 05/10/2016 22:38

I found the 'toilet/shower/ opposite the kitchen quite restricting when we had a 'family van' with rear bunks and front double dinette/double bed.  Everytime I was cooking someone wanted to use the loo, and there was just not enough room.  

I'd like to see a washroom which goes all the way across the van, dividing the caravan in two, with a central door from each 'area' (kids at the back) parents at the front. Shower at one side, loo and small basin at the other side.  That way there wouldn't be the 'nip point' of the kitchen and bathroom being opposite each other.

Perhaps a suggestion for a new design?

Given the number of new models with a centre toilet and a doublr at the back I think most firms will add twin beds soon if the doubles sell enough. The problem with the layout tends to be it needs a fairly long caravan given the need to then fit the kitchen ahead of the toilet but there are probably plenty of people who would go for it.

 

 

 

young thomas replied on 06/10/2016 08:19

Posted on 06/10/2016 08:19

I found the 'toilet/shower/ opposite the kitchen quite restricting when we had a 'family van' with rear bunks and front double dinette/double bed.  Everytime I was cooking someone wanted to use the loo, and there was just not enough room.  

I'd like to see a washroom which goes all the way across the van, dividing the caravan in two, with a central door from each 'area' (kids at the back) parents at the front. Shower at one side, loo and small basin at the other side.  That way there wouldn't be the 'nip point' of the kitchen and bathroom being opposite each other.

Perhaps a suggestion for a new design?

Given the number of new models with a centre toilet and a doublr at the back I think most firms will add twin beds soon if the doubles sell enough. The problem with the layout tends to be it needs a fairly long caravan given the need to then fit the kitchen ahead of the toilet but there are probably plenty of people who would go for it.

 

 

 

Val, centre 'split' washrooms have been around in MH for ages....

however, there is one bariation on this layout which is currently in vogue for MH...usually with a longitudinal island bed at the rear, which can be lowish with storage locker right across underneath, or set higher with full bike garage under.

ahead is the washroom, with toilet on one side, wash basin placed behind a panel set at the foot of the bed, and the shower on the oppositeside to the toilet. showers can be square/square to suite the flow/design of the van...

with sliding doors, the whole washroom can be closed/open to those in the rear bedroom or those in the front of the van.

ahead of the shower will be the van door and a tall fridge freezer, on the opposite side the L-shaped kitchen.

further forward, a lounge/dinette incl the two cab seats.

all this, including engine etc will fit easily into 7.5m, so sould be doable with room to spare in a 7m (internal) caravan.

Back2Sorento replied on 06/10/2016 10:59

Posted on 06/10/2016 10:59

All caravan layouts are a compromise,  whether end or central toilet layout . As far as the OP is concerned our 2012 clubman SB is fine.  We use it as Valda says (being an older couple ).  However if using with 4 people I would get the option of cushions instead of the centre cabinet to create a wrap around seating arrangement . It would allow for a wider bed & provide more seating room for the kids (they seem to need more room than an adult) . 

Tammygirl replied on 06/10/2016 11:28

Posted on 06/10/2016 11:28

As stated in my earlier post we had a Lunar Lexon SB 2010 model. For us it was the perfect van in layout. Rear of van twin singles beds with 4 drawer cabinet between them, 8 overhead lockers, 3 each side and 2 at the rear above the headboards, plenty of headroom for sitting up in bed.

Forward of the beds was on one side a shower cubicle, on the otherside a toilet and sink. The toilet door could open across the van giving a huge en suite bathroom/bedroom and of course deviding the van from the front. Forward again from this was kitchen on one side and wardrobe on the otherside, there was no narrowing of the centre of the van so no pinch points, the front lounge was, well at the front of the van.

This type of layout is great for families of 4, couples who like to take friends away with them or couples who just like having lots of space, fixed beds etc. all in  7.4m van.

I believe the model was changed later to an end bathroom with the beds being central in the van IMHO this was a mistake, the vans are now IMO no longer a true 4 berth as there is no privacy for anyone.

I forgot to say that the front chest could be easily lifted out at nightime and put in the car or awning should you want to make up the front bed into a huge kingsize.

replied on 06/10/2016 11:42

Posted on 06/10/2016 11:42

Very much the layout we looked at in 2012. The washroom however was alongside th shower and entered from the wash area and seperate from the shower. Not what we wanted then but thought it would be good for a family. I think that there may well have been bunks available over the rear beds? 

Tammygirl replied on 06/10/2016 14:25

Posted on 06/10/2016 14:25

Not sure why but manufacturers seem to be obsessed with rear bathrooms, for me that only works in a 2 berth van, any other berth it means  having to go through a sleeping area to access it, not ideal.

young thomas replied on 06/10/2016 16:49

Posted on 06/10/2016 16:49

the only thing i could think of, TG, would be that some wouldnt want the toilet next to the kitchen...however, we have this type of layout and i ca. say with confidence that OH'scooking has no effect on my time in the small room....Wink.

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook