Motorhome over 3m high

FireJohn replied on 23/12/2018 12:22

Posted on 23/12/2018 12:22

Hi, I have never owned a caravan or motorhome before and I am looking forward to many the adventures ahead, at home and abroad. I am purchasing a new motorhome in March. I am thinking of adding an AC unit but this may take me over 3m in height. I have been told that this will put me in a commercial vehicle category on toll roads on the continent. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? What will the difference in toll charges be?

Many thanks in anticipation.

peedee replied on 03/01/2019 06:48

Posted on 02/01/2019 19:20 by Tigi

Life is far simpler if you intend touring on the continent to stick to 3.5T and under 3.0m if you can manage with size and or payload.

Posted on 03/01/2019 06:48

Alternatively only use the toll roads when strictly necessary, e,g. bypassing major cities like Tours. It is also far more interesting.

peedee

replied on 03/01/2019 07:21

Posted on 03/01/2019 06:48 by peedee

Alternatively only use the toll roads when strictly necessary, e,g. bypassing major cities like Tours. It is also far more interesting.

peedee

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hitchglitch replied on 05/01/2019 18:04

Posted on 03/01/2019 07:21 by

Also many of the "toll" roads bypassing cities are in fact free.  In that regard if we want to get a move on, I set my SatNag to avoid roads with tolls, but not motorways.  

Posted on 05/01/2019 18:04

This is usually the case for obvious reasons and usually there is a Pèage on the approach to a town followed by a free by-pass section e.g. Lyon.

Two notable exceptions: if you take the Autoroute South from Calais (a sensible choice as the N road alternatives are tedious) the new Autoroute around Reims is a toll road.  Also, if you take the Autoroute approaching Rouen travelling North the best road to Calais is to stay on the Autoroute until Calais is signposted. It takes you over the river and connects straight to the dual carriageway but will cost around 3 Euros. Sounds daft.

Kontikiboy replied on 06/01/2019 20:18

Posted on 23/12/2018 16:42 by FireJohn

Thanks both. I have now sorted it thanks to google. If you are over 3m High or 3.5 T GVW then you are a cat 3 on toll roads. As my MH is plated at 3.8 T having the AC or not doesn't affect this. 

Posted on 06/01/2019 20:18

Hi FJ,

I don’t quite understand this statement above.   “ If you are over 3m, with ac fitted or over 3.5t”.  Remember, it is either or.    With your ac you are over 3m and this does affect your toll charges and ferry charges.   There are also some sites you will not get onto as well.    I went to one at Moissac in France last Sep where it had a 3m height limit.    My van is 2.98m high so I am always checking.     At some point in the future I might have changed my Kon-tiki for the new 2019 version which has some exciting new bits on it, but the downside and killer is that it is now 8.11m long and 3.06m high.   Both of these stats incur huge increase in running cost.   What are Swift thinking about?!

BillC

ChristianS replied on 01/02/2019 12:28

Posted on 01/02/2019 12:28

Just came back from France at New Years Eve with my MH which is including roofbox 3.4 m. Therefore it is under 3.5t I have been charged the normal rate on the motorway and tunnel tolls. So I believe the toll will be charged on weight not height. Hope this helps.

InaD replied on 01/02/2019 17:42

Posted on 01/02/2019 12:28 by ChristianS

Just came back from France at New Years Eve with my MH which is including roofbox 3.4 m. Therefore it is under 3.5t I have been charged the normal rate on the motorway and tunnel tolls. So I believe the toll will be charged on weight not height. Hope this helps.

Posted on 01/02/2019 17:42

my MH which is including roofbox 3.4 m. Therefore it is under 3.5t I have been charged the normal rate on the motorway and tunnel tolls

I don't quite follow the logic there: height is 3.4, therefore it is under 3.5t ???

Tolls are not charged on weight, how can they, where and how would they be able to weigh each passing vehicle?  Earlier on in this thread, on page 2, peedee stated: "I have read the height sensors on the French toll roads check the front vehicle height and anything mounted further back is ignored."  Therefore, your roofbox, which presumably sits much further back than straight above the cab, wouldn't be measured. 

Our previous MH was a 5t tag-axle model.  We only ever paid Classe 2 for that, even though it was obviously well above the magic 3.5t, and should definitely have been a Classe 3.  But it was below (just) 3m and that is all that's measured.

Ricochet replied on 28/02/2019 15:40

Posted on 28/02/2019 15:40

Don't forget that in Slovenia its the height of the windscreen measured along a line running through the front wheel bearing. If this is more than 1.8 metres the vehicle is classed as a class 3. This causes problems for 'A' class vehicles.

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Posted on 28/02/2019 15:40 by Ricochet

Don't forget that in Slovenia its the height of the windscreen measured along a line running through the front wheel bearing. If this is more than 1.8 metres the vehicle is classed as a class 3. This causes problems for 'A' class vehicles.

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Ricochet replied on 28/02/2019 15:57

Posted on 28/02/2019 15:57

Don't worry about it. The guys that run the autoroute don't understand it either. As far as teyre concerned if it looks like a motorhome it is a motorhome as long as it spends euros in their country. So just get the ordinary car vignette.

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