Confused by figures

JohnM20 replied on 05/03/2017 11:03

Posted on 05/03/2017 11:03

I must start by saying that I am not anti motorhome or anti motorhomer.  If money was no object my choice would be to have both to use depending on the type of holiday I’m going on. Im not that rich but I am a bit confused by some figures and statements from the CMC. 

The CC/CMC have stated that 40% of new members are motorhomers’ but in another statement on FB from a CMC spokesperson they say “A lot of people were not aware that we accept all types of outfits”. If this is so, how can they also claim that before the rebranding 40% of new members are motorhome owners particularly when official industry figures are considered? 

Figures from the NCC state that in Britain there are 550,000 caravans and 205,000 motorhomes. This is a % ratio (in whole numbers) of 73% to 27%.. On this basis, the CC were already attracting more new MH members than the percentage of MH owners nationally. To my mind the reason given for the rebranding does not seem to be based on fact (Fake News??). 

The same NCC figures show that in the 9 years from 2005 to 2014  registrations of new motorhomes (DVLA figures) showed an increase from 8,814 in 2005 to a peak of 11,646 in 2007 after which there was a rapid decline in sales to a low of 6,950 in 2011. This drop is attributed to “economic difficulties in the UK”. Since 2011 there has been a small increase in registrations.and by 2014 it was up to 8,733 but still way below the peak sales of 2007.  No figures are yet available for subsequent years. 

New caravan sales over the same period have shown a continued downward trend from the high in 2007 of 33,350 to a low in 2014 of 18,450 but with a small boost in 2010 to 21,800. Again, figures for subsequent years are not yet available. 

The fall in sales of all types of units after 2007 was believed to be due to economic reasons according to the NCC. If post Brexit predictions are correct then I think we can see this reduction in sales happening again. A quote from a major exhibitor at the recent NEC exhibition was “ it was a very tough week”. This is perhaps indicative that the slump may have already started. Obviously most of those already owning either type of unit will continue to use them but this will not change any percentages of who uses what. 

My personal belief is that if money becomes very tight for many people, it will reduce new  sales of both types of units but it is not rocket science to understand that £20,00 for a caravan is easier to find than £50,000 for a motorhome. 

This is just how I read and interpret the statements and figures. Perhaps someone else can put a different interpretation forward?

 

 

 

replied on 05/03/2017 14:09

Posted on 05/03/2017 14:09

I joined in 1981 never felt snobby to me. Maybe I was a snob myself then even when I had a trailer tent wink

obbernockle replied on 05/03/2017 15:20

Posted on 05/03/2017 14:09 by

I joined in 1981 never felt snobby to me. Maybe I was a snob myself then even when I had a trailer tent wink

Posted on 05/03/2017 15:20

What's up with trailer tents? Are they inferior? You didn't feel the club was snobby even ithough you had a trailer tent? How condescending is that? 

ABM replied on 05/03/2017 15:39

Posted on 05/03/2017 15:39

It's  only  Snobby  'cos  he  probably  had  a  very  Top  Hole,  High  Grade  Trailer  Tent  !!innocent

Not  Condescending  --  just  factual  !wink

 

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DavidKlyne replied on 05/03/2017 16:55

Posted on 05/03/2017 13:37 by

The 40% is not the percentage of members in the total club population. Just the levels of recent recruitment I thought. No matter really

Posted on 05/03/2017 16:55

My understanding is that 40% of current members own motorhomes and 60% own caravans at least that is the way I read it? 

David

replied on 05/03/2017 19:08

Posted on 05/03/2017 15:20 by obbernockle

What's up with trailer tents? Are they inferior? You didn't feel the club was snobby even ithough you had a trailer tent? How condescending is that? 

Posted on 05/03/2017 19:08

It weren't a very posh one. smile

I would have thought snobby would look down on old caravans and anything with canvas. As I said never found snobby. And, as for looking down on trailer tents I certainly don't. I love to see them. Haven't seen one in the last 3 or 4 years on a CC site though.

By the way, please do not attach intentions to my use of words that are simply not there within my thoughts. There's a good chap

obbernockle replied on 05/03/2017 22:43

Posted on 05/03/2017 19:08 by

It weren't a very posh one. smile

I would have thought snobby would look down on old caravans and anything with canvas. As I said never found snobby. And, as for looking down on trailer tents I certainly don't. I love to see them. Haven't seen one in the last 3 or 4 years on a CC site though.

By the way, please do not attach intentions to my use of words that are simply not there within my thoughts. There's a good chap

Posted on 05/03/2017 22:43

I can only interpret what I read. I think snobery is a phenomena which some people are made to suffer from by others who deny that it exists.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 05/03/2017 23:09

Posted on 05/03/2017 23:09

You need to bear in mind, Obber, that there are different ways of interpreting every statement.

replied on 05/03/2017 23:30

Posted on 05/03/2017 23:30

I was going to suggest that he boiled his head TW. Thankfully you stopped mewink

Obber I am far from being a snob about other folks units. Lets leave it there shall we. smile

replied on 05/03/2017 23:32

Posted on 05/03/2017 16:55 by DavidKlyne

My understanding is that 40% of current members own motorhomes and 60% own caravans at least that is the way I read it? 

David

Posted on 05/03/2017 23:32

 From the OP (and I have read it elsewhere): The CC/CMC have stated that 40% of new members are motorhomers

allanandjean replied on 06/03/2017 08:25

Posted on 06/03/2017 08:25

"Not sure about the point of motorhomes costing more though as a reason for caravans to do better. A caravan needs a larger than otherwise necessary car to tow it so the two can be near the same cost."

Sorry for being off thread but if we only ever bought what was necessary then this thread would be irrelevant as neither a MH or caravan is 'necessary'.

It seems that the flurry of posts comparing one with tother and, perhaps,prompted by the name change has resulted in the startling trend of people with an MH telling us how great they are and people with caravans telling us how great they are.

As many of my Cornish colleagues would have said "matter do it?"

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