Clean Air Greater Manchester

RowenaBCAMC replied on 01/10/2021 13:39

Posted on 01/10/2021 13:39

Greater Manchester (GM) is taking action to improve air quality on local roads – now and for future generations. 

All ten local authorities have worked together to develop the Greater Manchester Clean Air Plan. This will help bring nitrogen dioxide (NO2) levels on local roads within legal limits by 2024. The final Clean Air Plan has now been approved by the councils, following a public consultation and further development work.

It includes a Greater Manchester-wide Clean Air Zone, which is anticipated to launch on 30 May 2022. More than £120m in government funding will also be available to support eligible Greater Manchester businesses, people and organisations to move to cleaner vehicles before the Zone is introduced. 

The Club will be making a representation on behalf of members, however, if members themselves want to get involved the more input the better.

Please visit Clean Air Greater Manchester for more information and please also share with anyone who might be interested, or visit the consultation here: https://cleanairgm.com/consultation

replied on 22/01/2022 08:46

Posted on 22/01/2022 08:46

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DavidKlyne replied on 22/01/2022 09:40

Posted on 21/01/2022 18:35 by baconbutty

Motorhomes should be exempt from the charge. By comparison to commercial vans there are a miniscule amount on the roads within the huge boundary area of GM. I live in Saddleworth and my van, Adria Compact SL 2009, is stored 1 mile away. I will not be able to bring it home to clean and prepare for a trip the following day without paying £10 per day. I am all for clean air zones but there has to be some common sense. 

Come on the club, help fight for a fair deal because there is no way I can afford a post 2016 van so I will leave the club.

Posted on 22/01/2022 09:40

The problem for the people deciding what vehicle categories to include is how do they distinguish between motorhomes and the various other light goods vehicles on the road as they are essentially the same thing as far as the engines are concerned. I would be surprised that the number of non Euro 6 motorhomes covered by the Clean Air zone actually made a recordable contribution to the pollution levels in Great Manchester but the number of non motorhomes probably do? Euro 6 engines show a 67% reduction in emissions compare to Euro 5 so that is a significant difference.

David

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 22/01/2022 10:11

Posted on 22/01/2022 08:46 by

I was this week talking to the motorhome dealer who as a Dometic agent has dealt with  my fridge repair . He is based inside the zone  and told me that although its clear his business  is going to be badly affected he has had no official notification about the scheme and only knows  what he has heard from the press and media. One customer using the online checker discovered  his large TA   motorhome fell into the £60 category and he is unlikely to be returning, 

He runs a good business  staffed with conscientious people and it will be a loss to our hobby if this ill thought out scheme forces him out. 

Posted on 22/01/2022 10:11

Save the planet-as long as it doesn’t 1) inconvenience folk

                                                           2) stop folk making money

                                                           3) cost anything to Joe Public🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

The vast majority of us posting on here won’t need a good functioning planet but generations to come do need somewhere to live, somewhere safe from crazy weather as std for a start & being able to continue heavily polluting cities isn’t an option. 

peedee replied on 22/01/2022 10:21

Posted on 22/01/2022 10:21

The problem for the people deciding what vehicle categories to include is how do they distinguish between motorhomes and the various other light goods vehicles on the road as they are essentially the same thing as far as the engines are concerned.

It should be easy to do if they are correctly registered as "Motorhomes" They do it for vehicles registered to the disabled which are all free to enter any of the zones in the UK regardless of what engines they have. However, I am not agreeing that motorhomes should be allowed free in fact I think even registered disabled vehicles should eventually be charged after a period of say 3 to 5 years grace.

peedee

replied on 22/01/2022 10:41

Posted on 22/01/2022 10:11 by Rocky 2 buckets

Save the planet-as long as it doesn’t 1) inconvenience folk

                                                           2) stop folk making money

                                                           3) cost anything to Joe Public🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

The vast majority of us posting on here won’t need a good functioning planet but generations to come do need somewhere to live, somewhere safe from crazy weather as std for a start & being able to continue heavily polluting cities isn’t an option. 

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Boff replied on 22/01/2022 10:47

Posted on 22/01/2022 10:47

If they charged £2 it would be a tax as it wouldn’t be enough to affect behaviour. Charge £10 then it begins to alter behaviour.   

KjellNN replied on 22/01/2022 11:09

Posted on 22/01/2022 11:09

It seems flawed to me if no account is taken of how far you are driving within the zone.

From what I have read, you can drive around all day, causing a lot of pollution, and pay £10 for the day,  but if the same vehicle travels only a couple of miles, for example to exit the zone, it will still cost £10.

Have I read that correctly?

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 22/01/2022 11:22

Posted on 22/01/2022 10:41 by

Taxes are great as long as its others paying. Lost business and jobs are no problem as long as its somebody else's livelihood hence we have all the enthusiasm for this from folk on here living hundreds of miles away telling us how keen they would be to pay.

Apart from maybe losing  access to that dealer it wont affect me but I do care about those  who are

Posted on 22/01/2022 11:22

I care way more about lives lost-I have priorities-lives trump money! Sorry but it’s a fact in my world🤷🏻‍♂️

DavidKlyne replied on 22/01/2022 12:57

Posted on 22/01/2022 11:09 by KjellNN

It seems flawed to me if no account is taken of how far you are driving within the zone.

From what I have read, you can drive around all day, causing a lot of pollution, and pay £10 for the day,  but if the same vehicle travels only a couple of miles, for example to exit the zone, it will still cost £10.

Have I read that correctly?

Posted on 22/01/2022 12:57

That is probably right, it is a heavy hammer for a small nail so to speak. The only fair way would be for all vehicles to have a TAG that recorded how far they travelled and were charged accordingly but we don't seem to be at that stage yet?

David

Whittakerr replied on 22/01/2022 22:00

Posted on 22/01/2022 22:00

It could be argued that motorhomes, being non essential and being used purely for leisure, should be charged more than similar sized vehicles carrying out essential journeys.  

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