Clean Air Greater Manchester

RowenaBCAMC replied on 01/10/2021 13:39

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Posted on 01/10/2021 13:39

Greater Manchester (GM) is taking action to improve air quality on local roads – now and for future generations.

All ten local authorities have worked together to develop the Greater Manchester Clean Air Plan. This will help bring nitrogen dioxide (NO2) levels on local roads within legal limits by 2024. The final Clean Air Plan has now been approved by the councils, following a public consultation and further development work.

It includes a Greater Manchester-wide Clean Air Zone, which is anticipated to launch on 30 May 2022. More than £120m in government funding will also be available to support eligible Greater Manchester businesses, people and organisations to move to cleaner vehicles before the Zone is introduced.

The Club will be making a representation on behalf of members, however, if members themselves want to get involved the more input the better.

Please visit Clean Air Greater Manchester for more information and please also share with anyone who might be interested, or visit the consultation here: https://cleanairgm.com/consultation

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ChocolateTrees replied on 13/01/2022 16:14

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Posted on 13/01/2022 15:20 by DavidKlyne
I suppose it will solve itself eventually when there are no longer any ICE cars on the road. Unfortunately that is a long way off and we have no idea how much further damage will be done in the mean time. It seems to me that the major flaw with the Manchester scheme is that because it doesn't include private cars its unlikely to make much difference in my view. The issue then is would the electorate of Greater Manchester be willing to accept the mass imposition of such a scheme? In London you can probably get away with it because of the public transport infrastructure. I don't know the Manchester area well enough to know how easy it is to get around without a car. I am sure I have heard Andy Burnham say that he wants all transport under his control so they can build a London like system so from that I assume it could be improved. The trouble with climate change everyone nods sagely saying something needs to be done but when it comes to directly impacting on their lifestyle they are suddenly not so keen. My suggestion for the Manchester area would be to have a series of small zones concentrated in highly populated areas, where there is more likely to be better transport options, and charge for everyone for entering those areas. David

Posted on 13/01/2022 16:14

The trouble with climate change everyone nods sagely saying something needs to be done but when it comes to directly impacting on their lifestyle they are suddenly not so keen.

This is not a climate issue - it's an air quality and pollution issue. The two are related, but separate. Switching from a 50mpg Euro 5 diesel to a 50mpg Euro 6 diesel will reduce NOx and particulate emissions cutting the local air pollution, but will have zero impact on CO2 and climate change.

brue replied on 13/01/2022 17:10

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Posted on 13/01/2022 17:10

Here's an update released today following on from Rowena's link about the consulatation.

>UPDATE<

brue replied on 13/01/2022 17:11

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Posted on 13/01/2022 17:11

It looks like the first phase will begin in May 2022.

davetommo replied on 13/01/2022 19:42

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Posted on 13/01/2022 12:58 by Whittakerr

And if the charge is high enough to be a deterrent then pollution will reduce. Result.

Posted on 13/01/2022 19:42

That’s true but it will only be a deterrent to those who can’t afford. The well off will be ok because they can afford it.Take it you want to keep the peasants at home

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davetommo replied on 13/01/2022 19:53

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Posted on 13/01/2022 19:53

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Tinwheeler replied on 13/01/2022 20:00

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Posted on 13/01/2022 20:00

It’s not a congestion charge at all. It’s a Clean Air Zone. I think you’re getting confused with London, DT.

brue replied on 13/01/2022 20:06

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Posted on 13/01/2022 20:06

The charges at present will only apply to certain vehicles not registered in the GM area.

If we go into the area with our motorhome we'll have to pay £10.

In the SW if we go into Bath we'll have to pay £7.

Different UK areas have different pollution levels to tackle and can adjust what they think will reduce the levels.

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Posted on 13/01/2022 20:06 by brue

The charges at present will only apply to certain vehicles not registered in the GM area.

If we go into the area with our motorhome we'll have to pay £10.

In the SW if we go into Bath we'll have to pay £7.

Different UK areas have different pollution levels to tackle and can adjust what they think will reduce the levels.

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davetommo replied on 13/01/2022 20:35

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Posted on 13/01/2022 20:00 by Tinwheeler

It’s not a congestion charge at all. It’s a Clean Air Zone. I think you’re getting confused with London, DT.

Posted on 13/01/2022 20:35

Call it what you must it is still a charging system to make money

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