Leaving dogs unattended in van

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 16:04

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:04

I was always under the impression that it was not allowed to leave dogs unaccompanied in your caravan whilst staying on Club sites.

We are currently on the NYM site, near Whitby and there is a poor dog barking and whining in the van next to us.  The owners went out this morning and given the experience of the last few days, are unlikely to be back until 1800 or so. It is clearly in distress - although how much is anyone's guess.

We have approached the wardens who are aware of the barking (the pitch is not far from the office) and told Ros, that the dog has been barking since the owners went out.  They had been told that it was being left on its own but had water and a bed and, in fairness, they have left all the roof lights open. It is nevertheless upsetting to have to listen to it. Mrs Warden also said that she was not aware of any rule preventing dogs being left on their own.

Having had a look at the CAMC leaflet - "Touring with Dogs" - it appears that she is correct:-

"Dogs can become anxious when lonely or uncomfortable. To minimise this, make sure
they have somewhere cool to relax, with good ventilation and access to an ample supply of drinking water if you do have to leave them for short times.
Where possible, please keep your dog with you, especially on hot days. A quick build-up of temperatures in cars, awnings, outfits or tents can be fatal to animals."

This isn't a complaint about barking dogs - my complaint, if I have one - is about inconsiderate owners who, in my opinion, are not fit to look after an animal.

Have the rules changed - and if so - why, because it doesn't seem fair to the dog!

 

Takethedogalong replied on 17/07/2021 23:25

Posted on 17/07/2021 16:05 by
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Posted on 17/07/2021 23:25

AD, what happened to your dog?

richardandros replied on 18/07/2021 06:25

Posted on 17/07/2021 21:14 by Briang

Our caravan is on our drive all the sunroofs are open and all the windows are open with the night blinds down to keep out the sun. Temperature in the van was 43c and today it was 40c no dog should have to go through Temperatures like that. The owners should be prosecuted and removed from the site immediately. I am a dog owner we never leave ours at all. There other words i could have used but not on the forum 

 

 

Posted on 18/07/2021 06:25

 Not quite that hot here, yesterday - but still an uncomfortable 31c in the van - with all rooflights, windows and door open and the awning reduced to just a sunshade. Meg is due at the groomers on Friday, so her coat is about as long as it gets.

She was on her cool-mat and I had the fan blowing onto her and she was OK, but just imagine how she'd have been if she'd been left like the dog that caused me to start this thread. How would a human have felt if they'd had to endure those temperatures wearing a fur coat!

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/07/2021 08:45

Posted on 18/07/2021 06:25 by richardandros

 Not quite that hot here, yesterday - but still an uncomfortable 31c in the van - with all rooflights, windows and door open and the awning reduced to just a sunshade. Meg is due at the groomers on Friday, so her coat is about as long as it gets.

She was on her cool-mat and I had the fan blowing onto her and she was OK, but just imagine how she'd have been if she'd been left like the dog that caused me to start this thread. How would a human have felt if they'd had to endure those temperatures wearing a fur coat!

 

Posted on 18/07/2021 08:45

They(the Dog abusers) would potentially kill their Dog & go straight out & buy another one-no doubt blaming its age for the loss. If a person can’t see what an awful thing leaving a Dog in such a confined space in heat is then they need banning from owning any animal for life.

Takethedogalong replied on 18/07/2021 10:31

Posted on 18/07/2021 10:31

We took our dogs with us to YRP in the Summer of 2018. It was blisteringly hot, so all our “what shall we do” plans had to be amended. Far far too hot to leave inside outfit, even had we been able to have all the windows and skylights open. We had a well shaded pitch as well. We did early and late walks in the park next door, and then split our day up so that one of us was on Site with the dogs, while the other took in various delights in York. Dogs had a mid afternoon walk s well, but were happy just to lounge around sleeping outdoors. We still had a great time, it’s just something you occasionally have to do if you have dogs travelling with you. That or make other safe arrangements for them😁

richardandros replied on 18/07/2021 11:50

Posted on 18/07/2021 11:50

Anyone that knows the NYM site will know that we are fortunate in being bounded by woods.  I was out there, early this morning with Meg for her 'big' walk and if she needs to go out after lunch, it's only a minute's walk before we are in the cool of the trees. It's looking a bit better today, a bit of a cool breeze now and again so I doubt that we will have the stifling heat of yesterday. She certainly seems a lot happiersmile Totally agree TTDA - we have a the privilege of looking after a dog - so you modify your behaviour / activity to suit all of you!

brue replied on 18/07/2021 11:55

Posted on 18/07/2021 11:55

We're off soon, the dog definitely won't be left in the van and hopefully we can find some cool riverside spots for her in Dorset.

I've totted up that since I was small twelve dogs have played a part in my life, all different and all loved along with the personality traits that needed quite a bit of thought and management! They have enhanced our family life. smile

Takethedogalong replied on 18/07/2021 13:08

Posted on 18/07/2021 13:08

Similar here Brue, we have had nine dogs since we got together, mainly Airedales, but a Rottweiler and Labs as well. Mix of pups and rehomed. Every one planned for, trained, budgeted for and much loved. They have all been our travelling companions, enjoyed every moment of being away with us, and we definitely enjoy their companionship and love in return. OK, we might have made a conscious  decision not to do certain things, or take certain types of holidays, but it’s always been part of the deal, not some kind of unforeseen issue. It’s not stopped us staying in cottages, B&Bs, hotels, travelling on trains, alongside touring. It’s our decision not to take them overseas, mainly because we can’t be bothered with the red tape, are wary of extreme temps, especially for animals not born or used to them, and enjoy ourselves doing what we like in UK. Our choice. Certainly given us lots of pleasure, exercise, laugh out loud fun moments, along of course with the inevitable heartache every so often. No regrets whatsoever.

RowenaBCAMC replied on 20/07/2021 13:43

Posted on 20/07/2021 13:43

Hi everyone

This discussion was closed at the weekend and hidden temporarily as we don't have staff working to support moderation at the weekends and many of the comments had to be moderated. I am reopening this for now but the discussion will close again if posts continue to contravene our guidelines and if arguments continue. Please also note that if you enter into disagreements on Club Together or make a post that could contravene our guidelines, we may have to suspend your access to the forum. I do understand this is an emotive subject but please be mindful of our guidelines. We also have a sperate discussion for dogs here: Dogs and Touring

I would also like to advise the OP that the best way to direct your concerns to the relevant team is to call or email the department and they would appreciate your feedback. The contact us page is here Contact Us 

Many thanks. 

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