Leaving dogs unattended in van

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 16:04

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:04

I was always under the impression that it was not allowed to leave dogs unaccompanied in your caravan whilst staying on Club sites.

We are currently on the NYM site, near Whitby and there is a poor dog barking and whining in the van next to us.  The owners went out this morning and given the experience of the last few days, are unlikely to be back until 1800 or so. It is clearly in distress - although how much is anyone's guess.

We have approached the wardens who are aware of the barking (the pitch is not far from the office) and told Ros, that the dog has been barking since the owners went out.  They had been told that it was being left on its own but had water and a bed and, in fairness, they have left all the roof lights open. It is nevertheless upsetting to have to listen to it. Mrs Warden also said that she was not aware of any rule preventing dogs being left on their own.

Having had a look at the CAMC leaflet - "Touring with Dogs" - it appears that she is correct:-

"Dogs can become anxious when lonely or uncomfortable. To minimise this, make sure
they have somewhere cool to relax, with good ventilation and access to an ample supply of drinking water if you do have to leave them for short times.
Where possible, please keep your dog with you, especially on hot days. A quick build-up of temperatures in cars, awnings, outfits or tents can be fatal to animals."

This isn't a complaint about barking dogs - my complaint, if I have one - is about inconsiderate owners who, in my opinion, are not fit to look after an animal.

Have the rules changed - and if so - why, because it doesn't seem fair to the dog!

 

JVB66 replied on 24/07/2021 18:16

Posted on 24/07/2021 18:16

If anyone sees an unattended dog in a vehicle in hot weather,  as long as you notify the police and can prove with other witnesses or phone footage ,you do not have to wait for their attendance to break into the vehicle to release the dog

Outdoor Lady replied on 24/07/2021 18:38

Posted on 24/07/2021 18:38

I really try not to get involved with dog discussions on here as it seems to bring the worst out of some people.  It's obviously not okay to leave a dog for this long. Do people think it's okay to leave a dog for for a short while in a vehicle that has air condition or do people think dogs shouldn't be left at all? of course this isn't for us to judge !! but we can form a opinion. Most owners know their dogs and know how they react to being left. Obviously no one in their right mind would leave a dog for extended periods in a caravan/motorhome but people saying they would break into a vehicle is really worrying, that's surely the wardens call?

JVB66 replied on 24/07/2021 18:45

Posted on 24/07/2021 18:38 by Outdoor Lady

I really try not to get involved with dog discussions on here as it seems to bring the worst out of some people.  It's obviously not okay to leave a dog for this long. Do people think it's okay to leave a dog for for a short while in a vehicle that has air condition or do people think dogs shouldn't be left at all? of course this isn't for us to judge !! but we can form a opinion. Most owners know their dogs and know how they react to being left. Obviously no one in their right mind would leave a dog for extended periods in a caravan/motorhome but people saying they would break into a vehicle is really worrying, that's surely the wardens call?

Posted on 24/07/2021 18:45

Only if they do as I posted , but not all those who leave dogs in vehicles are on camp sites,

redface replied on 24/07/2021 22:51

Posted on 24/07/2021 22:51

Surely one answer is to stake the hound next to the Caravan/MH so that it can crawl underneath to get out of the sun, has plenty of ventilation and provide it with water.

Depending on the dog's own personality it can then sleep whilst still being able (when woken) to bite the legs off any intruder.

Never had a problem with my mutt on the odd occasion that this was necessary.

Could it all be down to training said animal?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 24/07/2021 23:03

Posted on 24/07/2021 22:51 by redface

Surely one answer is to stake the hound next to the Caravan/MH so that it can crawl underneath to get out of the sun, has plenty of ventilation and provide it with water.

Depending on the dog's own personality it can then sleep whilst still being able (when woken) to bite the legs off any intruder.

Never had a problem with my mutt on the odd occasion that this was necessary.

Could it all be down to training said animal?

 

Posted on 24/07/2021 23:03

That's still unacceptable and irresponsible, RF. I don’t care if you have done it, I still consider it in those terms.

The dog could soil the pitch, could bark and annoy others, could get free and run off, could still overheat as the sun moves around, would be subject to only a 2m tether thus restricting movement to find shade, would still be unattended, would be vulnerable to theft.

replied on 25/07/2021 07:26

Posted on 24/07/2021 23:03 by Tinwheeler

That's still unacceptable and irresponsible, RF. I don’t care if you have done it, I still consider it in those terms.

The dog could soil the pitch, could bark and annoy others, could get free and run off, could still overheat as the sun moves around, would be subject to only a 2m tether thus restricting movement to find shade, would still be unattended, would be vulnerable to theft.

Posted on 25/07/2021 07:26

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 25/07/2021 07:43

Posted on 24/07/2021 23:03 by Tinwheeler

That's still unacceptable and irresponsible, RF. I don’t care if you have done it, I still consider it in those terms.

The dog could soil the pitch, could bark and annoy others, could get free and run off, could still overheat as the sun moves around, would be subject to only a 2m tether thus restricting movement to find shade, would still be unattended, would be vulnerable to theft.

Posted on 25/07/2021 07:43

Thus leading to an even more manic response to Dogs from some quarters. RF’s solution causes more problems than solutions. Tethering a Dog near a caravan could end up with the Dog entangled in the caravan itself. The only way is to keep the Dog with you🤷🏻‍♂️

SeasideBill replied on 25/07/2021 09:38

Posted on 25/07/2021 07:43 by Rocky 2 buckets

Thus leading to an even more manic response to Dogs from some quarters. RF’s solution causes more problems than solutions. Tethering a Dog near a caravan could end up with the Dog entangled in the caravan itself. The only way is to keep the Dog with you🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 25/07/2021 09:38

Nothing manic about some folks not sharing enthusiasm for troublesome dogs - we’re all entitled to a bit of peace & quiet and inflammatory comments don’t help. Just needs a bit of common sense and consideration and all ‘quarters’ can rub along with each other just fine. 

EmilysDad replied on 25/07/2021 09:48

Posted on 25/07/2021 07:43 by Rocky 2 buckets

Thus leading to an even more manic response to Dogs from some quarters. RF’s solution causes more problems than solutions. Tethering a Dog near a caravan could end up with the Dog entangled in the caravan itself. The only way is to keep the Dog with you🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 25/07/2021 09:48

The only way is to keep the Dog with you🤷🏻‍♂️

so, if you camp alone, would you be expected to take it to the shower block with you? Would you then tie it up out side or take it into the shower cubicle with you? 😉

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