Gardening: Hints and Help!

 Gee how hard is it to get here??

The rose I took from mum's garden - that they got years and years ago from Woolworths without a label has survived being dug out, transported to my house and potted is blooming . Photo maybe attached. It has always flowered on dad's birthday 21 June and mum's 7 October. It was also flowering on the day they each died, in September and November.

Phew, after 12/15 tries I finally got in!!!!! Yay!   What a gorgeous rose Bakers2, beautiful colour, and very special to you of course. 

Just crawled through the tunnel to CT and have my Peter Beales Rose catalogue in front of me B2. Did you say it was a 1950s Woolworths rose? There are two red roses that might fit the bill. Ena Harkness from 1946 and Josephine Bruce from 1952. I daren't go back and try to find your posts due to the web site issues. But if you've got more info I might be able to help or if you look at their catalogue on line you might spot it? You must be pleased to see it flower!  

ps  My Mum took Woolworth's fruit trees home on the bus in the 50's, she wasn't a gardener but knew what was needed! 

Brue isn't that tunnel dark and difficult??

How kind to take such trouble. I have no idea when they bought it but would say late 1970's though to early 1990's. Dad died 2001 and wasn't a shopper by nature lol so possibly not as late as the 90's! I expect it was bare rooted and the lack of a label would mean it was a good, nod nod wink wink, price!

In real life I'd say it was a little less orange looking but pretty good likeness. Very little if any smell, if that helps.

Even I, as a non rose lover, think it's rather neat and attractive - although it's been in their garden for years and I've acknowledged its blooming but not really looked at it.

Yes it's very special to me heddlo and may , just may be allowed to be planted in my garden! Mum didn't prune low for years so it's rather leggy, my next challenge will be to prune it and for it to survive.........

Edit brue more like Ena Harkness at a first look but not a large flower bloom, just about the size of a tight ladies fist looking down on the thumb , if that makes sense. I'll feret some more, but thanks for the pointers.

I also think David Austin Thomas A Becket looks very similar. But that says smell medium, I'd say no to little for smell. Thomas Á Beckett I've done it to open in another window to make comparison easier!

Sir John Betjeman looks likely too especially on the fragrance and date! Link sir-john-betjeman

If it's any help you can usually see the date when each rose was produced.

No luck with the web site so just a quick reply.

Hi😁 Bakers. You have got me pondering as well. I have the RHS Rose Encyclopaedia, which is my usual go to source for trying to find something.

Can I ask a few questions?

How large is flower in inches, across bloom?

How many buds per stalk?

Are the stems stiff with flower heads upright, or weak and blooms tending to droop a bit?

Do the leaves start off green as new growth, or are they reddish at first?

A photograph of whole plant, a close up of leaves and stems would be good. You can get a bit of help from looking at thorns sometimes, so a close up might be good as well.

How tall is it at moment from root stock point to uppermost tip? 

I love a good rose mystery. I still have a few in my garden though, despite best efforts😂

Can anyone recommend a nice contained Climbing Rose?

I found this https://www.rosesuk.com/roses/glad-tidings

dated from 1989, and was rose of the year, scent (hardly any😂) and says it’s really healthy, which yours looks to be. A possibility?🤔

Do you have a colour preference, and is it to go in full sun or part shade? Up against a wall/fence or climbing up a support like an arch or obelisk?

They all need a bit of looking after, but some go wild while others are easier. I am guessing you will want something that repeat flowers, rather than one big flush of flowers?😁