Formula One
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JollyKernow replied on 13/12/2021 11:06
cyberyacht replied on 13/12/2021 11:27
Posted on 13/12/2021 11:27
Chopping and changing the decision at such a late and critical stage served no-one. The rules need to be applied clearly. Maybe there needs to be an amendment that "under SC, no car may close an existing gap to closer than , say 5 seconds." That at least would go some way to mitigating penalisation of any leading driver.
Turning to the actual race, I was surprised that, when MV came in for his first tyre change, LH didn't push hard on his existing tyres which would have extended his lead and given fresher tyres for later in the race. Strange strategic decision IMHO.
Tammygirl replied on 13/12/2021 11:47
Posted on 13/12/2021 11:47
I don't believe the best driver won, I believe he was just lucky. If the crash hadn't have happen there was no way he could have caught Lewis even with his fresh new tyres on.
Am I the only one who heard the race director ask Christian Horner what he wanted, I clearly heard him say what do you want, to finish the race under the safety car or let them unlap, then he bent the rules and only allowed the cars between the two to unlap. At this point Toto screamed No Micheal No.
If that's not giving it to Verstappen on a plate then I'm a China man
Lewis behaved like a true sportsman after the race unlike the spoiled brat Verstappen when things don't go his way.
I know in my eyes who the better driver and sportsman is.
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Extugger replied on 13/12/2021 14:10
Bluemalaga replied on 13/12/2021 14:16
Posted on 13/12/2021 11:06 by JollyKernowAt least Michael Masi will be remembered as being the race director who decided who won the 2021 title.
JK
Posted on 13/12/2021 14:16
Although I do not believe a safety car should determine the result of the race or the title, over the season most decisions have gone the way of Lewis.
As I said before no punishment for punting Max off at Silverstone, which Lewis gained 25 points and Max nil.
But if we take like for like The Turkish GP as I mentioned earlier in the thread was the most obvious comparison where Lewis was the one that gained under the safety car then red flag. New tyres and unlapping in a race he would have scored no points, he managed to be in a very advantageous position and scored 10 points.
So if we reversed yesterdays result and give Lewis the 25 points and Max 18 and then take away the 10 points Lewis gained in a similar situation
Max would still be champion scoring 387.5 against 384.5. So the stewards would have handed the title to Lewis using the logic applied by JK.
Now if I may offer a change from the Max and Lewis debate, I would like to share a few pics from the past that I had the greatest pleasure taking at Silverstone and a pic of Senna at Donnington in the worst weather possible where he was outstanding.
Schumacher in the pits preparing for Qualification (old style)
David Coulthard at full chat and Nigel Mansell on the run down to Bridge, just before Jos Verstappen demolished his car against the barrier I was stood behind scattering parts all around me, much to the amusement of the spectators after the dust had settled. The comments were pretty explicit.
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Bluemalaga replied on 13/12/2021 14:25
Posted on 13/12/2021 14:25
There was one photo taken at Silverstone which I have always wondered what was said. The amazing Frank Williams before he was knighted seemed to be revered by someone.
Damon Hill giving vent to his frustration when leading the race before engine blow up and leading the Ferraris through the old Abbey
David Coulthard on the grid waiting for the start
It has been one of the highlights of my life to have the access to this amazing event, which has produced probably the best year I have ever seen, thanks to Max and Lewis and both teams.
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bill replied on 13/12/2021 15:04
Posted on 13/12/2021 11:47 by TammygirlI don't believe the best driver won, I believe he was just lucky. If the crash hadn't have happen there was no way he could have caught Lewis even with his fresh new tyres on.
Am I the only one who heard the race director ask Christian Horner what he wanted, I clearly heard him say what do you want, to finish the race under the safety car or let them unlap, then he bent the rules and only allowed the cars between the two to unlap. At this point Toto screamed No Micheal No.
If that's not giving it to Verstappen on a plate then I'm a China man
Lewis behaved like a true sportsman after the race unlike the spoiled brat Verstappen when things don't go his way.
I know in my eyes who the better driver and sportsman is.
bill replied on 13/12/2021 15:07
Posted on 13/12/2021 11:27 by cyberyachtChopping and changing the decision at such a late and critical stage served no-one. The rules need to be applied clearly. Maybe there needs to be an amendment that "under SC, no car may close an existing gap to closer than , say 5 seconds." That at least would go some way to mitigating penalisation of any leading driver.
Turning to the actual race, I was surprised that, when MV came in for his first tyre change, LH didn't push hard on his existing tyres which would have extended his lead and given fresher tyres for later in the race. Strange strategic decision IMHO.
Oneputt replied on 13/12/2021 15:38
Posted on 13/12/2021 15:38
I heard one report thatHamilton told Wolfe not to appeal the result of the race. If that’s true he has gone up in my estimation.
in the last 2 races there have been 4 incidents that Hamilton could have been penalised for and the FIA/Stewards let them go and not investigate.
Congratulations to Max and RBR. Perhaps next year we will see many different drivers on the podium
Whittakerr replied on 13/12/2021 15:47
Posted on 13/12/2021 15:04 by billIn my opinion the Mercedes is the better and faster car and Max Verstappen is the better driver and interestingly, I thought, F1 fans and spectators voted Max 'Driver of the Day' both last week weekend and yesterday.
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