Woodburners.

Fisherman replied on 22/02/2020 16:34

Posted on 22/02/2020 16:34

Another excellent, stupid headline.NO proper burner would think of using wood that is not say 1) Hardwood 2) matured for 2/3 years, 3) stored dry. Why? because its that that produces heat. Now I can understand that a few "celebrities" have gone for wood burners in Urban areas and the rest have followed, but can you imagine these type having the patience to mature their wood. No chance it has to be instantaneous. Then the wet behind the ears politicians come up with a blanket ban., Just  plain stupid. That s the tip of the iceberg. What about the Bio Mass generators, using cut today softwoods and burnt tomorrow with no drying whatsoever. And here we are talking of 10s of thousand of acres per week being cut. The mess the harvesters make are releases all the carbon stored in the ground. Again wet behind the ears politicians thought bio mass was the environmental" answer. You could not make it up. Then factor in the so called pollutants from say the Australian bush fires and there is no hope for mankind. Never mind back to stoking my fire with another few  DRY logs.

Fisherman replied on 23/02/2020 12:51

Posted on 23/02/2020 12:51

The Govment/Nanny state is all about Education. Why not just teach the uneducated to use Dry wood and not go all draconian with a ban. Could it be the miscreants are townies?

Tinwheeler replied on 23/02/2020 12:57

Posted on 23/02/2020 12:57

Oh, for goodness sake! Just what is your problem with a sensible move  to stop the sale of the wrong fuels, Fish? 😣

Metheven replied on 23/02/2020 14:13

Posted on 23/02/2020 12:51 by Fisherman

The Govment/Nanny state is all about Education. Why not just teach the uneducated to use Dry wood and not go all draconian with a ban. Could it be the miscreants are townies?

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:13

Could it be the miscreants supplying the wet wood are hillbillies?

ABM replied on 23/02/2020 14:36

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:36

You have confused me well and truly now   undecided  !!

You cut down a tree  --  it is naturally wet yes ??

you A ) allow it to stand, under cover for three years and it seasons / drys naturally.  Then you sell it to somebody who burns it.   Yes  ??

      B ) you take the original wet tree, cut it into bite size chunks then sell it to somebody who burns it  Yes ??

You have cut down a tree and in either case the moisture has been released and a trees worth of carbon dioxide released.

 So WHATS  THE DIFFERENCE PLEASE  ??

Now I'm off to boil an egg  smileinnocent

Freddy55 replied on 23/02/2020 14:43

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:36 by ABM

You have confused me well and truly now   undecided  !!

You cut down a tree  --  it is naturally wet yes ??

you A ) allow it to stand, under cover for three years and it seasons / drys naturally.  Then you sell it to somebody who burns it.   Yes  ??

      B ) you take the original wet tree, cut it into bite size chunks then sell it to somebody who burns it  Yes ??

You have cut down a tree and in either case the moisture has been released and a trees worth of carbon dioxide released.

 So WHATS  THE DIFFERENCE PLEASE  ??

Now I'm off to boil an egg  smileinnocent

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:43

I can’t say with any certainty, but I think it’s all about pollution. Dry logs burn clean (no smoke). I think I’m also right in saying that smokeless coal will still be available.

huskydog replied on 23/02/2020 14:44

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:44

Now , I’ve just the plan they hope to introduce,and the way I read is that I can’t buy a small bag of wet wood ,but I can buy a 1ton bag of wet wood ! , who is going to police it ?

Tinwheeler replied on 23/02/2020 14:44

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:44

Burning wet wood causes pollution - 

"Wet - also known as green or unseasoned wood - is often sold in nets and is cheaper to buy.

It contains moisture which, when burned, creates more smoke and harmful particles of air pollution (PM2.5) than dry wood.

Wet wood can also damage chimneys much more, by allowing tar and soot to build up.

Dry or seasoned wood - which has been dried out, often in a kiln - has a moisture content of 20% or less."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581817

 

JVB66 replied on 23/02/2020 14:45

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:13 by Metheven

Could it be the miscreants supplying the wet wood are hillbillies?

Posted on 23/02/2020 14:45

You are probably right,  selling to those who do not understand what wet wood does when burnt, and there will be plenty now , after the latest windy weather  ,but then who would question that they are looking for a quick profit rather than being honest with what they are selling ,honest country folk?surprisedwink

brue replied on 23/02/2020 15:46

Posted on 23/02/2020 15:46

The BHF, British Heart Foundation, produced research papers recently, about PMs (particulate matter.) Apparently domestic wood and coal burning contribute 40% of PMs, industry 29% and road traffic 12%. I don't recommend this as bed time reading...

redface replied on 23/02/2020 16:02

Posted on 23/02/2020 16:02

Should we all go out and buy damp meters to test the moisture content of our logs? 

Now if someone were unable to use their logs in winter because the moisture level was too high and they died of hypothermia would a coroner deliver a verdict of murder by HMG?

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