What is the obsession with attracting the yoof

JVB66 replied on 14/05/2017 18:18

Posted on 14/05/2017 18:18

Have been reading an interesting take on the above, and is it needed ?as 

1 The over 65s is 17.8% now rising to 23,6 % by 2045 

2 If the major clubs and commercial organisations want to fill sites mid week off peak and school holidays its the older generations they need to concentrate on as they /we have the time to do it

3 Over 50s now hold 70% of the UKs household wealth

4 Older people are more likely to take to our lifestyle as it it is not sneered at or micky taken as the younger tend to worry about?

5 People of us older generation are more likely to know some one who already is with our life style and will give them tips as to how to start and give them advise on the advantages compared to other leisure activities

Ok open Firecool

Takethedogalong replied on 16/05/2017 21:30

Posted on 15/05/2017 20:51 by Cornersteady

some excellent photos in there including this one of Yellowcraig

Posted on 16/05/2017 21:30

Wow, Corners, very interesting! Great photo of Yellowcraig. We recognised it straight away. First stayed there in the late 1980's, but that aerial view looks as if the layout hasn't altered very much. Facilities block in Centre now of course. Some great family history there, superb touring pedigree!laughing

Takethedogalong replied on 16/05/2017 21:50

Posted on 16/05/2017 21:50

I have to agree to a certain extent with what BB says about a small number of basic pitches for touring MH's. If we are doing a tour, as opposed to siting up in one place, then we won't roll up until as late as possible, and will be up and off again the next morning, so paying over £15 per night is just not on for us for less than a twelve hour stay.

I do appreciate that this is a very radical departure in terms of what the Clubs core pitch provision has been, but it would be something that MH owners who like to tour could view as a worthwhile reason for becoming a member. Would be interesting to know what the sale rate of small to Mid size MHs is currently? 

Being able to discount pitches on the day, say after 5pm, would be a way forward as well on none busy Sites. Take up of empty pitches better at reduced rates than no rates at all!

Cornersteady replied on 16/05/2017 22:30

Posted on 16/05/2017 21:50 by Takethedogalong

I have to agree to a certain extent with what BB says about a small number of basic pitches for touring MH's. If we are doing a tour, as opposed to siting up in one place, then we won't roll up until as late as possible, and will be up and off again the next morning, so paying over £15 per night is just not on for us for less than a twelve hour stay.

I do appreciate that this is a very radical departure in terms of what the Clubs core pitch provision has been, but it would be something that MH owners who like to tour could view as a worthwhile reason for becoming a member. Would be interesting to know what the sale rate of small to Mid size MHs is currently? 

Being able to discount pitches on the day, say after 5pm, would be a way forward as well on none busy Sites. Take up of empty pitches better at reduced rates than no rates at all!

Posted on 16/05/2017 22:30

provided that it doesn't take away from existing pitches then it could be a viable idea. But one or two questions? 

Why isn't this been done on non club sites? or has it?

Wouldn't a CL fulfill this requirement or do you prefer the 'big site' facilities offered by larger club sites?

Morris Traveller replied on 17/05/2017 00:03

Posted on 17/05/2017 00:03

Non club sites do not style themselves as Caravan and Motorhome Clubs. If the Club wishes to be a Club which includes motorhomes as well as caravans then perhaps it may need to cater for the style of camping of motorhomers. Perhaps. Maybe. Those of us who spend considerable amounts of time motorhoming in places other than in the UK will know what we motorhomers keep on about. Those who don't, maybe, will not.

On the whole, I don't care that much. If the Club doesn't provide what we want, we go elsewhere.  For example, Britstops may provide an alternative which is more in the style of non UK motorhoming and the other Club provides motorhome servicing facilities.

The Club has chosen to rename itself, but it takes more than a name change to adapt itself to what some motorhomers would like.

 

 

DavidKlyne replied on 17/05/2017 00:08

Posted on 16/05/2017 22:30 by Cornersteady

provided that it doesn't take away from existing pitches then it could be a viable idea. But one or two questions? 

Why isn't this been done on non club sites? or has it?

Wouldn't a CL fulfill this requirement or do you prefer the 'big site' facilities offered by larger club sites?

Posted on 17/05/2017 00:08

I am not aware of it being done on campsites generally in the UK although as BB said further up the thread it is quite a common thing in Europe. Some, but not all sites have areas set aside for motorhomes although often separate from the general camping pitches. I would have no objection to the Club setting up special  areas  specifically for motorhomes but I do wonder how they would square the spacing requirement? Personally I don't think CL's would be the answer for several reasons. They are often out of the way, access is not always good and people arriving late and leaving early might not do the owners any good. At least on Club sites you could have payment machines at the entrance to the parking area so as not to involve the wardens and it would allow access at any time.

David

PhilHeller replied on 17/05/2017 08:00

Posted on 16/05/2017 21:50 by Takethedogalong

I have to agree to a certain extent with what BB says about a small number of basic pitches for touring MH's. If we are doing a tour, as opposed to siting up in one place, then we won't roll up until as late as possible, and will be up and off again the next morning, so paying over £15 per night is just not on for us for less than a twelve hour stay.

I do appreciate that this is a very radical departure in terms of what the Clubs core pitch provision has been, but it would be something that MH owners who like to tour could view as a worthwhile reason for becoming a member. Would be interesting to know what the sale rate of small to Mid size MHs is currently? 

Being able to discount pitches on the day, say after 5pm, would be a way forward as well on none busy Sites. Take up of empty pitches better at reduced rates than no rates at all!

Posted on 17/05/2017 08:00

Can you imagine the discussions this would cause - how early can I arrive for my discounted pitch, why can't I book my discounted pitch the day before as I can't arrive until after 5pm, why can't I stay after noon on my discounted pitch etc, etc😂😂

peedee replied on 17/05/2017 08:06

Posted on 16/05/2017 22:30 by Cornersteady

provided that it doesn't take away from existing pitches then it could be a viable idea. But one or two questions? 

Why isn't this been done on non club sites? or has it?

Wouldn't a CL fulfill this requirement or do you prefer the 'big site' facilities offered by larger club sites?

Posted on 17/05/2017 08:06

Would it actually be a problem if it did take away some of the existing pitches. If say 30 percent of pitches are regularly being taken by a motorhome, some of those are more than likely to be just night stopping so you should be able to transfer at least some of them for this use without any effect at all. Realistically I cannot see the physically separation of pitches happening on existing sites, it would be much cheaper to introduce a tariff for night stopping motorhomes like the system of "quickstops" seen in some Scandinavian countries. .i.e. a reduced tariffs for both motorhomes and caravans if you arrive after say 5p.m. and leave by 10 a.m. the next day.

You can use CLs if you pick them with care with regard to access but even then, unless there is hard standing, you run the risk of getting stuck on a soggy pitch should it rain. It is not really a satisfactory option but it is one I am taking this year in conjunction with a THS provided by the C&CC club on a three week tour this summer rather than pay £25 plus expensive site fees for facilities I do not need.

peedee.

replied on 17/05/2017 08:25

Posted on 17/05/2017 08:25

I see very few motorhomes going off every day. No matter when thety arrive on site theyi have access to9same facilities. A unit on site most of the main xeason uses little more electric  mainly fridge. It is still a pitch in use 

JayEss replied on 17/05/2017 09:06

Posted on 17/05/2017 09:06

It seems to me that the club has targeted a section of the market without fully understanding their needs. 

 

replied on 17/05/2017 09:11

Posted on 17/05/2017 09:11

The motorhomers that use the CC sites seem well catered for except with some emptying points. I presume that those who feel their needs not met are going elsewhere?

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