Safefill - Refillable Gas Cylinders

tadhatter replied on 18/06/2019 13:16

Posted on 18/06/2019 13:16

Last summer, as part of my ambition to do far more off-grid touring, I thought I'd invest* in Safefill. Perhaps my alarm belles should have been ringing when the place I went to go to purchase a canister was Brayford Leicsure and they only had one size available - the medium sized one - and lots of them! But nonetheless I coughed up my circa £160 for it and have them fill it up and carried on smug in the knowledge that I would soon be quids in in longer term savings.

However, for various personal reasons we haven't been able to get out in the caravan anything like as much as we had hoped since then - partly due to a job change and house move - we've only just got round to needing to re-fill it. I duly looked on Safefill's website to find stockists and discovered that there was only one in about a 10 mile radius. That would be ok if this garage would actaully allow me to refill it. Notices on their lpg pumps said that individual gas canisters were not be refilled here and before I even checked at the kiosk a forceful looking lady shouted at me saying that I couldn't fill that thing here!  However, after discussion she told me where, locally, I could get it sorted. I thanked her and went on to that location. Unfortunately she clearly mistook Safefill with standard Calor gas. I tried to call Safefill at this point only to hear that I couldn't leave a message as the mailbox was full! 

I proceeded to look for an alternative website to see where LPG was stocked and then proceeded to a couple of other locations, one which didn't actaully exist anynore and another also refused to let me fill my Safefill container. Having wasted 2 hours on a wild goose chase I decided to head home as I had work to do rather annoyed and frustrated.

So, can anyone else tell me if they'ved had simialr unhelpful experiences with Safefill or, more helpfully, let me know somewhere where I can get my cylinder refilled in the Beds/Herts/Bucks area.

Very much lool forward to hearing responses.

Cheers, 

Tim.

*for investment read expensive wasted of money!

Takethedogalong replied on 26/06/2019 18:18

Posted on 23/06/2019 12:17 by

Sounds an interesting car TTDA, what is it?

Posted on 26/06/2019 18:18

It’s a 4.0 litre Jeep Wrangler. We bought it in 2002, primarily to tow our caravan, and do a bit of off roading. As you can imagine, that four litre engine was rather thirsty. We bought a 4.0 litre Jeep Cherokee not long after, and had this dual fuelled to run on LPG, because it is so cheap compared with other fuels. More than doubled the mileage per gallon instantly, and there are plenty of garages with LPG around us. OH decided to fit LPG system to the Wrangler as well, having it checked out and Certificated as required. The Cherokee is long gone, sold immediately. We have hung onto the Wrangler until now, it owes us nothing and is very reliable as well as fun to drive. But we have reached the point of downsizing our vehicle collection. The other Jeep Wrangler, bought to replace the Cherokee went yesterday......in part ex for.......another Jeep Wrangler. But I think we shall part with the dual fuelled one now, prices are good at the moment. We have had it 17 years, it’s really only a two seater, plus dog room at the rear, and isn’t getting used enough.😀

Merve replied on 26/06/2019 20:35

Posted on 26/06/2019 20:35

I notice that 2 of my comments have been removed. So be it. I am trying to get information out to the various viewers of this thread but keep being waylaid by [Deleted User User]- not that that bothers me in the slightest  but it must be annoying  to those of us who genuinely want to talk about the problems surrounding Safefill which are extremely important to us as a group. I must try not to react to provocation in future- write that out 1000 times! 

Merve replied on 26/06/2019 20:44

Posted on 26/06/2019 20:44

LPG cars are on the decline I think? Safefill cylinders are a poor substitute for the amount of cars that were converted to take gas but I think things will improve from here. As more and more people find out about them. I am still finding people, and not one or two, who have never heard of Safefill or indeed, refillables! But I do note a real enthusiasm when they find out about them! - It’s  hard to get your head around this phenomenon as SF has been out for 8 yrs now and still they haven’t heard of it- where have these caravanners been? There is still a huge market out there! 

Merve replied on 26/06/2019 20:47

Posted on 26/06/2019 18:14 by davetommo

If the content is removed how does it get here in the 1st place

Posted on 26/06/2019 20:47

Some reply’s are pure devilment Dave. The mods , when they can remove what they think is offensive or abusive. Some wear it as a badge of honour no doubt! Not the mods- the posters!! Why should I worry- have you seen the price of bitcoin?🤣🤣🤣

replied on 26/06/2019 21:12

Posted on 26/06/2019 18:18 by Takethedogalong

It’s a 4.0 litre Jeep Wrangler. We bought it in 2002, primarily to tow our caravan, and do a bit of off roading. As you can imagine, that four litre engine was rather thirsty. We bought a 4.0 litre Jeep Cherokee not long after, and had this dual fuelled to run on LPG, because it is so cheap compared with other fuels. More than doubled the mileage per gallon instantly, and there are plenty of garages with LPG around us. OH decided to fit LPG system to the Wrangler as well, having it checked out and Certificated as required. The Cherokee is long gone, sold immediately. We have hung onto the Wrangler until now, it owes us nothing and is very reliable as well as fun to drive. But we have reached the point of downsizing our vehicle collection. The other Jeep Wrangler, bought to replace the Cherokee went yesterday......in part ex for.......another Jeep Wrangler. But I think we shall part with the dual fuelled one now, prices are good at the moment. We have had it 17 years, it’s really only a two seater, plus dog room at the rear, and isn’t getting used enough.😀

Posted on 26/06/2019 21:12

The user and all related content has been Deleted User

cyberyacht replied on 26/06/2019 21:19

Posted on 26/06/2019 20:47 by Merve

Some reply’s are pure devilment Dave. The mods , when they can remove what they think is offensive or abusive. Some wear it as a badge of honour no doubt! Not the mods- the posters!! Why should I worry- have you seen the price of bitcoin?🤣🤣🤣

Posted on 26/06/2019 21:19

You will doubtless recall that Baron Rothschild said he made his money by selling too soon. It's certainly a volatile product, a bit like LPG.wink

John41 replied on 27/06/2019 09:58

Posted on 27/06/2019 09:58

Hi everyone - this is the first time for me on this thread and came here due to my frustration over not being able to get hold of another Safefill bottle (I initially bought one of the 10Kg bottles and now want a 7.5Kg bottle as a back-up and to use with the Cadac BBQ) - I am now much more aware of the potential reasons for this delay and clearly have to wait even longer.  I have been in touch with Neil and we have exchanged e-mails since 2nd April - always the same answer - they are expected soon!

It's a great shame that Safefill are having such problems with supply, like so many I am fed up with being ripped off by Calor and the last straw for me was when they announced they were stopping with the Calor Lite.  After well over a year, there is still no sign of their promised replacement.

As a side issue, I was at my daughter's house at the weekend and we had a BBQ.  My son-in-law had to go to get a re-fill for his large Green BBQ cylinder - it cost him over £50 - just for the gas - that's a disgrace.

Tirril - with respect to your sticking valve problem.  The first time I put Gas in my "new" large bottle, I followed the advice and only partially filled - no problem.  When I later filled the bottle (first and only complete fill since buying) I couldn't work out why the gas wasn't flowing.  Eventually, I guessed it was a stuck valve and using a plastic biro after turning the tap on, I pushed the valve and allowed a small "spurt" of gas to escape - less than a second.  On refitting the connection to my motorhome - all was well and has been since.  As I don't use a large amount of gas I haven't yet filled for the second time so will have to wait and see it it happens again.

Merve - it's very sad that you have received so much hassle from some on here - there is no excuse for insults or attempts to discredit.  I thought as a club we did our best to treat all members with respect and accept that we wont always agree.  Like so many members, over the 30+ years of membership I have benefitted a great deal from other members experience, knowledge, help and advice - long may it continue.

 

WK57ABF replied on 28/06/2019 11:14

Posted on 28/06/2019 11:14

A good post John41.

Not only Merve has received insults and attempts to discredit - I've had rude and nasty comments from the gang of professional posters on this thread and there have been "content removed" notices by the bucket load.  

This thread seems doomed - I'm out.

John

KjellNN replied on 28/06/2019 21:29

Posted on 28/06/2019 21:29

We will be filling at Canal Garage off the M6 tomorrow as we will be heading south from CCC Kendal site, will try to remember to post the price.

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