Safefill - Refillable Gas Cylinders

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Sorry John, missed this yesterday. Thanks for the reply anyway.

Although I was in the oil and gas industry for 40 plus years it was what we call  ‘upstream’

I have no knowledge of how LPG suppliers conduct their business so I wasn’t qualified to answer

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Safefill may not be a threat at the present time but if they take off they(Safefill) will inevitably eat into the Calor/Shell profit margin. It does make sense they are attempting to stop them before that happens. I think it’s folly to think all companies run their businesses with complete fairness particularly to potential future threats to their profit margins. 

Hi Maybe of interest
I have now created a spreadsheet & map to list LPG stations that allow filling of refillable bottles. Hopefully any stations that have been mentioned on this discussion and on the other LPG one are now on there!.
Will be great if anyone can part with their knowledge regarding the filling stations that have filled bottles etc if they would post them on the new discussion or there is a form which can be filled in.
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Great stuff, J57👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻  

Thanks for your efforts👍🏻

agreed, not a safefill user myself but some really useful info for those that are.

It’s not just for Safefill, BB, but any refillable bottles/systems.  

In my own case, it’s a refillable tank but I know the depot I used will refill bottles as well.

 

The future is refillable bottles - 300,000,000 people in North America can't be wrong - and we're 20 years behind them.

Thank you WK. Refills are the future and it petrifies the big boys. It’s bound to! When you have had a revenue stream as bountiful as rental charges on every cylinder that goes out ( and we are talking hundreds of thousands here- possibly millions) then anything and I mean anything that threatens that will be targeted. Safefill have not only had the audacity to produce a cylinder that is perfectly safe for the owner to refill, but they- SAFEFILL- have faced down opposition from the likes of UKLPG who incidentally are staffed by companies like Calor and Flo, by seeking out PELG, showing them the product and how it works and by that tenacity and hard work. we now have a revised RED GUIDE which now includes the filling of ‘properly constructed user owner cylinders ‘ and incidentally it forced UKLPG to amend their St 26. By not doing so would have made a mockery of the various authorities involved with the regulations surrounding LPG. Had Neil from Safefill not had the foresight and energy to keep on until a result was forthcoming, we would now be 30 yrs behind. We owe a very great debt to Safefill- for bringing us into the 21st century and giving us a choice. That is what it is in the end- a choice between rental cylinders, and there’s are many that prefer to use rental cylinders due to the amount of gas they use, or refillables which , for me and people like me who are offgrid and use more gas than most, have become indispensable for the way we caravan- saving us many ££££s in rental charges. Anything that try’s to stop that freedom of choice should be opposed most strongly and I would like to think that the club would get involved and do some investigation regarding the denial of fill facilities. I won’t hold my breath on that one! 

To those of you that are ‘looking forward ‘ to the article in the September issue of the Club Mag in offgrid caravanning, I rang to find out when they were planning to see me for photo shoots, interview etc. Surprise surprise, a staff member went off grid for 6 days- ( SIX days) and has submitted the article. Wow, that should be full of useful info eh? I would be most surprised if refillables get a look in or are even discussed!! My Holiday was 6 WEEKS and in cloudy weather for the most part and still we were able to live on board a small though we had an EHU! I am disappointed obviously due to the fact that the club has reneged on a promise made - but I ain’t surprised!!