Mining/Fracking - old and new

Bru, I was a miner for 25 years and I don't understand when you say we will conserve our coal. The best coal is deep mined and as I said to open a coal mine it would cost millions, another point is that there wont be many experienced miners left if they get round to opening coal mines again. I honestly think it would be a pipe dream, as I said short term planning 

, what should have happened is they should have kept mines open on a maintenance basis, then we would have easier access.

whats wrong in investing in renewable energy sources?

Get the gas out  - at least that should ensure lower prices in the UK (we do import liquified gas) and should also help to keep the price of leccy and driving down.Apparently oil and gas prices (according to one report I recently read) are closely linked.

I profess no knowledge but a news item I saw on fracking just this week said that it would not cause prices to drop because of the high cost of extraction relative to the yield.

Bru they have just closed the last deep coal mine and it would cost far to much to start opening them again. Short term planning comes to mind. Although britain sits on millions of tons of coal. Anyone who thinks fracking is good should really see all the bad publicity about it, including water from the tap being flammable.

And equally you should read the independant  scientific and engineering literature to balance that sensationalist anti fracking propagander. Much of the north sea gas has been fractured, its not a new technology. There are waters in the US that are flamable, but that is nothing to do with fracking, they are naturally occuring. 

PS I dont think it is good - I'd much rather see it left in the ground - we are destroying this planet, the only one we have and are wasting its finite resources. 

Unfortunately, its not something we can do unilaterally, without returning to the stone age, whilst other carry on regardless. We are stuck in an energy race and cannot afford to take our foot off the gas first!

Bru, I was a miner for 25 years and I don't understand when you say we will conserve our coal. The best coal is deep mined and as I said to open a coal mine it would cost millions, another point is that there wont be many experienced miners left if they get round to opening coal mines again. I honestly think it would be a pipe dream, as I said short term planning 

, what should have happened is they should have kept mines open on a maintenance basis, then we would have easier access.

whats wrong in investing in renewable energy sources?

What renewable sources?

I am like most MPs I don't want it in my backyard. Most fracking is being done up north, there ain't much being done in London or Oxfordshire, any ideas why. Also there was a promise not to frack in national parks, whatever happened to that promise.

Bru, I was a miner for 25 years and I don't understand when you say we will conserve our coal. The best coal is deep mined and as I said to open a coal mine it would cost millions, another point is that there wont be many experienced miners left if they get round to opening coal mines again. I honestly think it would be a pipe dream, as I said short term planning 

, what should have happened is they should have kept mines open on a maintenance basis, then we would have easier access.

whats wrong in investing in renewable energy sources?

...And when they close the mines most of the equipment is left underground and arfter a while it will either rot away or be crushed as the millions tons above sink 

Bru they have just closed the last deep coal mine and it would cost far to much to start opening them again. Short term planning comes to mind. Although britain sits on millions of tons of coal. Anyone who thinks fracking is good should really see all the bad publicity about it, including water from the tap being flammable.

And equally you should read the independant  scientific and engineering literature to balance that sensationalist anti fracking propagander. Much of the north sea gas has been fractured, its not a new technology. There are waters in the US that are flamable, but that is nothing to do with fracking, they are naturally occuring. 

PS I dont think it is good - I'd much rather see it left in the ground - we are destroying this planet, the only one we have and are wasting its finite resources. 

Unfortunately, its not something we can do unilaterally, without returning to the stone age, whilst other carry on regardless. We are stuck in an energy race and cannot afford to take our foot off the gas first!

So why were coalmines allowed to shut to satisfy one person.

I am like most MPs I don't want it in my backyard. Most fracking is being done up north, there ain't much being done in London or Oxfordshire, any ideas why. Also there was a promise not to frack in national parks, whatever happened to that promise.

...Sorry but it is being done country wide wherever ,they think that shale oil exists including the south ,its no use trying in a lot of the South, as it is mostly clay and chalk or gravel

So why isn't there investment in renewable energy, like wind turbines, movement of the sea, power from rivers, haven't we got these things in this country. Pity we cannot discuss the true reasons, I would but the thread would be closed.

I am like most MPs I don't want it in my backyard. Most fracking is being done up north, there ain't much being done in London or Oxfordshire, any ideas why. Also there was a promise not to frack in national parks, whatever happened to that promise.

Mainly because you have got to drill where the gas actually is! 

They are not fracking IN the nationl park they are fracking 2.5 km under the national park (from outside the national park) vertical and horizontal drilling is the norm in the north sea