Heathrow - Additional Runway

tigerfish replied on 25/10/2016 14:09

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:09

The Govt have announced today that the location selected for a new Runway will be Heathrow instead of Gatwick.

Now I can see the arguement for both locations but I remain unconvinced that either of those two locations was the correct answer.  I fully accept that the demand has outstripped our capacity and that as a result our commerce is suffering at the very time that we need to up our game.

But did anyone consider Lynham just off the M4 and a little SW of Swindon?  The ex RAF station became famous as the home of the RAF's Hercules fleet, but as the Govt foolishly cut back on our Armed Services Lynham was closed as an RAF station, and the assets were moved to Brize Norton.   I believe that the Ex Lynham base is now an Army camp,  the runway being virtually unused.

So why not develop that old base?  Yes the runway will probably require refurbishment, but the basis of a viable new Airport is there and could have been built at a fraction of the cost of developing either Heathrow or Gatwick.   It is ideally located to serve the whole of Southern England and with access  to both road and rail links.

TF

brue replied on 25/10/2016 14:16

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:16

People want London TF, as near as possible. How the extra traffic will be organised is another matter!

tigerfish replied on 25/10/2016 14:23

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:23

But how far from London is it really?  Swindon is now regarded as a dormitary town to London and what is the comparable journey time compared to that of Gatwick?

I know what you mean,- but just think of the detrimental effect to the Heathrow envireons, or Gatwick for that matter.  We need an extra runway I think everyone accepts that, but Lynham is there and is not being used!

TF

Bakers2 replied on 25/10/2016 14:36

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:36

Hmmm what a surprise . The infrastructure struggles now! Still work won't start for years -public I inquiry starts next year so I understand so further delay.

In my humble opinion it'll miss the boat. Capacity is needed now and very soon. Well be lucky if this is ready before 2025 whoever pays. Plus they'll only fund the runway and buildings not infrastructure. so more bought for the people who it effects most

I expect this thread will be classed as political and  closed.

brue replied on 25/10/2016 14:37

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:37

I suppose the infrastructure is already there at Heathrow to get people into London via the tube link. Swindon is too far out, actually the thought of planes coming over the west country to Swindon would be a no no for me! Frown

Bakers2 replied on 25/10/2016 14:43

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:43

Brue I wonder when you last used the tube? Crossrail is coming but will probably reach or exceed capacity before or very soon after completion! I used to commute to Westminster 30 years ago heavy use of train and tube then. Had the misfortune to be in westminster for 9.15 am five years ago and a train much earlier than I would have used was standing room only at 0630 for the 35 minute journey. The southeast is rammed full but still they are cramming housing in.

brue replied on 25/10/2016 14:48

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:48

I hate the tube! But I only mentioned it because of the Heathrow rail link. I've just had a thought, since it's the west runway isn't it....maybe we will get more planes over our way! Yell

volvoman9 replied on 25/10/2016 14:49

Posted on 25/10/2016 14:49

If Heathrow needs another runway then i dont se why it cant have one if the land can be made available.It disappoints me that whenever a scheme like this is touted people are queing up to protest about it.These things have to be built somewhere the same as motorways and a high speed rail networks.

v9

moulesy replied on 25/10/2016 15:06

Posted on 25/10/2016 15:06

I don't think Lyneham would work. There may be capacity on the airfield tself, but the access to the village from Calne, Chippenham or Wootton Bassett is via not very good A roads to start with through a number of small villages. The access to the M4 would have to be through or near to Wootton Bassett itself.  I don't think the North Wiltshire countryside could stand the decimation.

I'm not sure where in the whole debate the alternative of extending one of the current runways got lost - seemed a reasonable alternative to me, but then, what do I know about it?   (Answer - not a lot! Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.)

tigerfish replied on 25/10/2016 15:57

Posted on 25/10/2016 15:57

Moulseley & V9,  I think that you may misunderstand me.  At the end of the day I fully support the concept that London does require additional runway capacity, and if it has to be Heathrow, so beit.   I am just a little concerned about what it will do to the area surrounding Heathrow at the moment.

It will require the leveling of many hundreds of homes, yes they will receive compensation etc, but it will disrupt lives, and add to the existing pollution in that already congested area.

Then I look at many other cities, - Tokyo for example ( You cannot get much more cosmopolitan), and its airport Narita.  Narita was built as the new Tokyo airport about 30 years ago and it is a very long way outside Tokyo's envireons. 

Then I see that great runway at Lynham, unused, and I just wonder?  Moulseley I do accept what you say, but would the cost of improving both rail and road links to Lynham come anywhere close to the enormous cost being projected for the Heathrow extension?

I'm certainly not going to get excited about it either way, I'm just a bit troubled I suppose.

TF

DavidKlyne replied on 25/10/2016 16:12

Posted on 25/10/2016 16:12

As I understand it Heathrow is used a lot for freight. My simple logic would be to move all freight out of Heathrow, perhaps to somewhere like RAF Lyneham which would free up a lot of extra capacity?

David

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