Green Energy

Exactly!

Too many people caught up in the green religion, rather than looking at the green science!

Oneputt

Could you paraphrase a bit without the need to watch the film?

David

I have just "endured?" most of the film ,and it basically comes to the conclusion as some are already aware ,that for the planet to go "green" as those it seems with a vested interest want,

It will be far more damaging to the planet  ,with what resources are needed for all the green? ideas and the manufacture of them,

And fossil fuels will still be needed

I've short cut it by looking at the reviews. Here's one from Sky >LINK< doesn't look as though the critic or scientists have been impressed.

I expect your solar panels have achieved both profit and energy saving Oneputt, so that's not a problem if you've had them long enough to cover the outlay and they are still efficient. 

Thanks Brue

I suppose however we produce the energy we need there will be an initial cost in terms of emissions from the manufacture of the wind turbines/solar panels. However unlike burning fossil fuels which continue to produce emissions the greener energy option will continue to produce clean energy for years into the future. I think I may have said this before but rather than pay people to produce their own energy from say solar panels I would prefer the Government to make a one off contribution to funding their installation in the first place. From that point those that take that funding will not only reduce their personal electricity charges but could be paid for any excess going to the Grid but only be paid the going rate which would be much lower than some feedback tariffs.

David

Seeing the lovely clean air recently I'm all for some alternative energy. 

But not at this price Brue

I think the shocking part for me is the amount of energy spent getting the various materials together, (raping the planet) then the manufacturing and finally the decommissioning and destruction of the generator is taking vast amounts of energy for little gain.  I think one of the shocks for me that all the companies purporting to be 100% renewable are in fact telling porkies.  Of course some people are getting mega rich out of this.

Up in North Norfolk there are tens of thousands of acres of good food production land being used to provide fuel (usually maize)  for biomass.  The biomass industry tells us that  only 1.6% of agricultural land is used.  I am sceptical because of the subsidies.  Apparent;y  In 2016, energy companies received around £891 million in UK subsidies for generating electricity from bio-energy and the vast majority of that came from burning wood. A lot of the wood is transported from abroad.  These bio plants kick out substantial greenhouse gases but still it counts toward our renewable energy targets, 

My only real experience of green energy is my own solar panels.  If it hadn't been for the subsidies I wouldn't have brought them.  As it is. its been a really good investment.  The panels are returning about 18%/year tax free until about 2034.  Even if I have to replace panels over the coming years I will still be making a great return.

Until we find a way to store the energy from renewable's I think we are wasting earths precious resources and wasting a lot of the power produced

Yes Brue I to read it.  If they had named these 'scientist' so we could check where they are getting their funding I would have been more impressed.

But there thats the cynic in me

I pointed out that the cost of going ‘green’ was not very green at all due to most of the ‘greening’ work was in China. I remember being a lone voice back then. It was Merve’s thread. I was not popular at all. As I said at the time-I was dealing in facts not attacks🤷🏻‍♂️. The main problem is all the rare earth minerals that are needed for the greening, they being finite resources☹️