Green Energy

Oneputt replied on 29/04/2020 09:08

Posted on 29/04/2020 09:08

During this period of lock down I have watched more U-Tube stuff than actual TV.  Some of the people I follow are Cruising the Cut and Sailing Yacht Florence.  

Whilst browsing U-Tube however, I came across some pretty serious thought provoking stuff as well.  One such is Michael Moores  Planet of the Humans.  This is another view of renewable energy.  It's a long film so bear with it if you can.  If your not familiar with Michael Moore just google him and see his credentials before watching the film.

I thought I brought my house solar panels for green reasons but if i'm honest it was for profit

JVB66 replied on 30/04/2020 08:27

Posted on 30/04/2020 07:47 by Oneputt

I think the shocking part for me is the amount of energy spent getting the various materials together, (raping the planet) then the manufacturing and finally the decommissioning and destruction of the generator is taking vast amounts of energy for little gain.  I think one of the shocks for me that all the companies purporting to be 100% renewable are in fact telling porkies.  Of course some people are getting mega rich out of this.

Up in North Norfolk there are tens of thousands of acres of good food production land being used to provide fuel (usually maize)  for biomass.  The biomass industry tells us that  only 1.6% of agricultural land is used.  I am sceptical because of the subsidies.  Apparent;y  In 2016, energy companies received around £891 million in UK subsidies for generating electricity from bio-energy and the vast majority of that came from burning wood. A lot of the wood is transported from abroad.  These bio plants kick out substantial greenhouse gases but still it counts toward our renewable energy targets, 

My only real experience of green energy is my own solar panels.  If it hadn't been for the subsidies I wouldn't have brought them.  As it is. its been a really good investment.  The panels are returning about 18%/year tax free until about 2034.  Even if I have to replace panels over the coming years I will still be making a great return.

Until we find a way to store the energy from renewable's I think we are wasting earths precious resources and wasting a lot of the power produced

 

Posted on 30/04/2020 08:27

The local council here have installed solar panels on some of their properties ,but i understand that after the high winds we have had problems have come to light with some of the roofs,now needing quite major repairs 

cyberyacht replied on 30/04/2020 10:04

Posted on 30/04/2020 10:04

What we all need to realise is that we live on a finite planet. Whether we use oil, solar or wind, we should tread softly.

ABM replied on 30/04/2020 10:40

Posted on 30/04/2020 10:40

+1   Cyberyacht !!

As the old saying goes there is no such thing as a free meal  !!

ChemicalJasper replied on 30/04/2020 11:23

Posted on 29/04/2020 15:57 by brue

I've short cut it by looking at the reviews. Here's one from Sky >LINK< doesn't look as though the critic or scientists have been impressed.

I expect your solar panels have achieved both profit and energy saving Oneputt, so that's not a problem if you've had them long enough to cover the outlay and they are still efficient. wink

Posted on 30/04/2020 11:23

So the ones who are in bed with the billionaires making billions from pseudo-green technologies, don't like a film exposing their nefarious activities.

...Not sure why that would be? wink 

brue replied on 30/04/2020 11:37

Posted on 29/04/2020 21:02 by ABM

But not at this price Brue cry

Posted on 30/04/2020 11:37

Maybe some good will come out of the present situation, a small change in a big disaster?

I'm all for less pollution. smile 

brue replied on 30/04/2020 11:47

Posted on 30/04/2020 07:51 by Oneputt

Yes Brue I to read it.  If they had named these 'scientist' so we could check where they are getting their funding I would have been more impressed.

But there thats the cynic in me

Posted on 30/04/2020 11:47

I looked up the reviews just out of interest as I won't be looking at the youtube film. I'm a bit sceptical of a film maker doing this when we know fossils fuels will run out. There are a lot of projects out there to find renewables in the best sense of the word. If he wants to offer his views that's ok by me. As long as it doesn't set us back on the long road to improving our energy systems for future generations. We've had the benefits of fossil fuels but they won't. smile

ChemicalJasper replied on 30/04/2020 11:51

Posted on 30/04/2020 11:51

I think that was the whole point though - going green is not about less pollution, its about making billionaires richer and actually results in accelerating pollution and the destruction of limited resources and ecosystems.

I'll be honest, I thought it was going to be a BS film, and whilst I remain sceptical about some aspects, the opening up of the money and power trails is a real eye opener.

It is dry and the presenter to monotone, but definitely worth a proper watch all the way through!

 

brue replied on 30/04/2020 11:59

Posted on 30/04/2020 11:59

Sustainable energy, I'm sure you know what that means, the opposite of finite resources. wink

I think you could argue till the proverbial "cows come home" but we are running out of time to sort this one. Yes, it costs money so people want a return on their investments in this tough old world. maybe we'll do it for free in the future? That would be good.

I'll leave it at that. smile

Takethedogalong replied on 30/04/2020 12:11

Posted on 30/04/2020 12:11

Will watch at some point OP. We are sticking to one hour of TV per day, usually as we eat a meal. We found lots of Simon Reeves’ travel documentaries on BBC Iplayer. Looks at places from an entirely different point of view. We enjoy the sugar coated versions such as Tony Robinson’s current series, but these are total eye openers. You can only gasp in horror at what is happening in certain countries in terms of environmental damage and the impact it is having on local communities as well as the World generally. Planet Earth doesn’t have a prayer quite frankly if all we do is ponder on tinkering with trivial.

brue, the difference in air quality is amazing. You can smell the flowers now. 👍

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