Global warming

ivorwetwun replied on 13/12/2015 16:31

Posted on 13/12/2015 16:31

I have to confess, whilst I accept that the planet is warming, ever so slightly, I am not of the belief that it is cased by man, but our glorious leaders have come to an agreement in Paris limiting temperature rise to 1.5 or 2 deg above current temperatures.

My question is, what is the correct temperature for the planet?

There is evidence that the planet was significantly warmer a thousand years ago, and significantly colder some three hundred years ago when markets were held on the frozen Thames.

So at what point in the fluctuating temperatures do we select in order to cap the rise?

redface replied on 13/12/2015 16:51

Posted on 13/12/2015 16:51

Exactly so Ivor.  What are the natural cycles of cooling and warming over the past million years or so. Without knowing these figures how can anyone suggest anything is amiss?  OK so theories are ten a penny but I cannot see that any would have a solid basis on which to establish proof. Having said that I am in general agreement to clean up the atmosphere - have been to China and it is a permanent smog that they live under in their cities.

volvoman9 replied on 13/12/2015 18:10

Posted on 13/12/2015 18:10

I,ve heard far too many conflicting views over the last ten years to come too any conclusion.The only thing i do know for sure is its costing myself and everyone else money wether we like it or not and its going too continue costing us money.The jury is still out on this one.

peter.

triky auto replied on 13/12/2015 18:18

Posted on 13/12/2015 18:18

I,ve heard far too many conflicting views over the last ten years to come too any conclusion.The only thing i do know for sure is its costing myself and everyone else money wether we like it or not and its going too continue costing us money.

peter.

Write your comments here...Undecided It's yet another 'bandwagon' they can use to extract money from us under the guise of doing something. Yet whatever is decided by the powers that be,this planet of ours will continue to evolve in it's own interminable way.Clean up the cities by all means ,but that too is controlled by big business and financial gain !! IMO. 

mickysf replied on 13/12/2015 18:21

Posted on 13/12/2015 18:21

And then there were the very vocal, very wrong flat earth believers! The more we can do now the better, our towns are far better places to live since the clean air act, now 'we' act globally!Happy

mickysf replied on 13/12/2015 18:35

Posted on 13/12/2015 18:35

The fact that the Thames froze regularly in past times is not necessarily an indication of global temperatures. Regional climate change and global warming may cause some areas to cool while others become warmer. It's the average whole earth temperature which is important.

Wherenext replied on 13/12/2015 18:54

Posted on 13/12/2015 18:54

I don't see much point in quoting stats from over 300 years ago as the Industrial revolution and its burning of fossil fuels on a ginormous basis changed a largely agricultural world into an industrial one. 

It may well be correct that the earth is going through one of its cycles of warming but we seem to be pouring oil onto the burning fire and who's to say whether the earth will be able to reverse the warming by itself. I don't believe it will.

Anyway nature tells you that something is wrong. Plankton are moving further north as the waters around the North of Scotland are ;too warm for it.  Let's face it Paris isn't about stopping or reversing warming it's only about slowing the warming down. IMO we need to start getting rid of the build up of CO2 to try to reverse this warming.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 14/12/2015 10:14

Posted on 14/12/2015 10:14

The glorious outcome of the Paris conference is the major polluters have signed up. In the past only a few had agreed to abide by the rules. If the agreement is solid & every signatory sticks to the agreement we may in decades to come see if it is a natural phenomenon or man made, in the past I have been very cynical about the man made theory but I am open to facts-incontrovertible facts not 'best guesses' that are then blown out of the water by others 'best guesses' give us the truth, something we can understand.

Fisherman replied on 14/12/2015 10:44

Posted on 14/12/2015 10:44

These so called experts seem to be looking at a very short time scale. The weather has changed dramatically since ever.What they think we mere humans can really do against nature baffles me. Just look at Harlech Castle.Built by Edward 1st (very short time scale). It was at the seaside. Now the sea is  miles away.

Tammygirl replied on 14/12/2015 14:00

Posted on 14/12/2015 14:00

I'm not sure about the whole the planet is warming thing. However I do belive that the destruction of the rain forrests are not helping, they are the planets lungs and filters, without them the planet will not be able to mend itself. So in some ways man has caused the problem. I believe the planet is always evolving so getting warmer then colder is normal, but I do think we need to give it a hand.

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