Global warming

ivorwetwun replied on 13/12/2015 16:31

Posted on 13/12/2015 16:31

I have to confess, whilst I accept that the planet is warming, ever so slightly, I am not of the belief that it is cased by man, but our glorious leaders have come to an agreement in Paris limiting temperature rise to 1.5 or 2 deg above current temperatures.

My question is, what is the correct temperature for the planet?

There is evidence that the planet was significantly warmer a thousand years ago, and significantly colder some three hundred years ago when markets were held on the frozen Thames.

So at what point in the fluctuating temperatures do we select in order to cap the rise?

ivorwetwun replied on 14/12/2015 14:51

Posted on 14/12/2015 14:51

And then there were the very vocal, very wrong flat earth believers! The more we can do now the better, our towns are far better places to live since the clean air act, now 'we' act globally!Happy

Write your comments here...No need to be abusive.

If I'm not mistaken, the clean air act of the 1950's dealt with pollution caused by soot and sulphur dioxide, not CO2, and it made people switch to smokeless fuels, amongs other things.

the scientists of today are divided 50/50 as to the causes of global warming.

Take a look at Piers Corbyn on YouTube who backs up his theories with facts, that appear to show man is not at fault, unlike Al Gore in the mid 90's with his "hockey stick" graph stating we would all be dead by 2015.

Incidentally, it made Gore $millions

mickysf replied on 14/12/2015 20:05

Posted on 14/12/2015 20:05

I totally agree, there is no need to abuse our planet! Yes, the clean air act aimed to reduce the pollutants  described but the fact that global atmospheric CO2 levels also had risen 40% during the industrial revolution speaks volumes about the problems we contribute to and face now and in that of the future. This problem was identified as mostly eminating from the industrial northern hemisphere. Better, recognise the possibilities of cause and learn from our mistakes rather than hide our heads! I do recognise that other opinions are available just like described in my previous post!Wink

Wherenext replied on 14/12/2015 21:41

Posted on 14/12/2015 21:41

OK, imagine 2 scenarios:

1. The people wanting some action to clean the pollution up or at least slow it down manage to win the argument and the naysayers agree. Years from now the scientists agree they got it wrong. What has happened? Plenty of alternative clean technology has been introduced and people have been healthier due to less smog and pollution in the atmosphere. Sorry about that.

2. The naysayers win the argument, nothing is changed and years from now they admit that we cannot fix the warming that we have helped to cause. Migrants are now fleeing areas around the equator as they can't farm etc.etc. The ice cap has melted and the weather has become more extreme.Sorry about all that. 

So whose decision has the worse consequences for humankind if they are wrong?

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/12/2015 10:12

Posted on 15/12/2015 10:12

Occam's razor, anyone?

Occam's it is then. . . .Global warming?, merely a periodic & natural cycle of the Earths warming/cooling. . . .SortedHappy

Kennine replied on 15/12/2015 18:07

Posted on 15/12/2015 18:07

This Global Warming nonsense is just a ruse designed around those wanting to line their pockets at other people's expense.  This earth in which we all live, has for millions of years heated up and cooled down in natural cycles. What we are seeing at the moment is just a natural cycle in the life of the earth. There is no point in trying to fight nature, it will happen no matter what you do. just like you cannot stop the tide from ebbing and flowing.  Just enjoy living on this earth as it is, cos you ain't going to change anything. 

CoolSmile

mickysf replied on 15/12/2015 18:20

Posted on 15/12/2015 18:20

This Global Warming nonsense is just a ruse designed around those wanting to line their pockets at other people's expense.  This earth in which we all live, has for millions of years heated up and cooled down in natural cycles. What we are seeing at the moment is just a natural cycle in the life of the earth. There is no point in trying to fight nature, it will happen no matter what you do. just like you cannot stop the tide from ebbing and flowing.  Just enjoy living on this earth as it is, cos you ain't going to change anything. 

CoolSmile

Write your comments here...please give us that categorial evidence you clearly seem to hold which proves we humans have not added to this problem in a detremental way and can't ntribured to any natural global weather, climate or warming patterns! There are many scientists and lay folk who would just love to see this! Until then, I guess we should all try to protect our world, it's habitats, all it's inhabitants and environments as best we possibly can.

Fisherman replied on 15/12/2015 18:42

Posted on 15/12/2015 18:42

There seems to be too much vested financial interest in all this. The guy in the front row -Al Gore has made a fortune out of warming scaremongering. The alternative renewable industry is riven by vested interest, We the consumers are  being ripped off all the time in this. The latest deal invoves massive payments to others and we know all too often these monies go into the wrong hands.  Until I see a proper balanced reason to prove it is mankind who is responsible for the climate change I stand unconvinced

Boff replied on 15/12/2015 22:47

Posted on 15/12/2015 22:47

And then there were the very vocal, very wrong flat earth believers! The more we can do now the better, our towns are far better places to live since the clean air act, now 'we' act globally!Happy

 

the scientists of today are divided 50/50 as to the causes of global warming.

 

No they are not. 

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