e scooters

Mike Abbott replied on 24/08/2021 20:56

Posted on 24/08/2021 20:56

Just a quick question relating to E Scooters ? I am a concerned member regarding the use of E scooters on sites ? As a member we should only be doing 5 mph around sites when driving a vehicle and also fully insured ? wondering what the Clubs veiws are on the use of E scooters doing 25 mph plus ! around sites ? also the damage liabilty & insurance issues in the event of an accident or injury to persons or posessions ie vehicles, caravans, and awnings etc ?

young thomas replied on 29/09/2021 15:29

Posted on 29/09/2021 15:29

It's interesting that you discount Club comparisons to 'small' commercials yet do exactly the same when I mention a 'large' commercial...

perhaps the club is unique and doesn't stand comparison elsewhere?undecided

Cornersteady replied on 29/09/2021 15:52

Posted on 29/09/2021 09:25 by young thomas

We have moved from a couple of club sites and are now on a smallish (30 odd vans) site on the edge of the New Forest...

no one way road, no cars or MH doing anything like the speeds we all see (yet seem reluctant to admit to) on club sites.

No kids tearing around on bikes or scooters...no wardens, just the owner and his assistant...pay at office when convenient....

...and most noticible...NO reams of paper (now in a nice plastic folder.....) listing scores of rules about everything one could think of...

owner met us...told us where the toilet/shower/CCEP etc were, along with the two pitches he had allocated together for us and our pals and we we pitched up in a couple of minutes....

the quietness here is in a real contrast to our previous two club sites.

it's not that we didn't enjoy our stay at either, we did, it's just that the club has its 'way' of doing things from pitching to providing info, from rules to upholding them, from road design to staffing....

when you move to somewhere that 'isn't Club' the difference seems stark..

 

Posted on 29/09/2021 15:52

No kids tearing around on bikes or scooters

I should hope not, it's term time?

Tammygirl replied on 29/09/2021 15:52

Posted on 27/09/2021 21:46 by Wherenext

As a matter of interest something similar to your concerns happened to us whilst we were on holiday with the caravan in Germany.

A Quad bike driven by a 14 year old young lady careered off the pavement and headed straight for our caravan hitting the nearside front passenger door head on. We were in the caravan at the time and on a campsite and merely heard the bang and screams of the young lady's friends. Very, very fortunately she only suffered minor injuries. The door was badly dented but usable and we exchanged insurance details with the parents of the girl. The family's household insurers, Zurich, eventually settled my out of pocket expenses, the excess, and my own motor insurer was also reimbursed.

I was rather surprised at the fact that the household insurer picked up the liability as most household insurance policies tend to exclude anything to do with motorised accidents.

It would be interesting to see if UK insurers were similarly inclined if something happened with an e-scooter. I would hope these machines are insured separately but don't know anyone with one to ask.

Posted on 29/09/2021 15:52

WN, when we lived in Germany its was law to have third party liability insurance.

Quite often this was included in house insurance. We had to take it out as parents, if our child ran into the street or fell off a bike and caused an accident as a parent you were liable for ALL costs.

Dogs were even included in the law, much to the dismay of one of our friends who's dog slipped his lead and ran into the road. It caused a driver to swerve, unfortunately it still clipped the dog which had to be put down due to the severity of its injuries. The dog owner had to pay for the damage to the car.

We had to use the insurance once, when a supermarket trolley got away from as we were unloading the shopping into the car. It rolled away and came to rest against a german car. The owner was most insistent that we pay for the wing to be resprayed. It was the tiniest of marks that could have been polished out. Thankfully the insurance agreed.

Very good cover to have, especially over here.

Wherenext replied on 29/09/2021 16:19

Posted on 29/09/2021 16:19

TG,

Thanks for your reply.  It is common over here, but not the law, in the UK to have Public Liability cover under your Household Insurance policy but I have seen many a policy underwritten by different companies that would have excluded cover for a motorised Quad bike, some even for sit down lawn mowers.

Insurers in the UK, many of them the very same ones that provide cover in Germany, are scared of large claims arising from these incidents and thus distorting their figures for what is a relatively low risk for them. One only has to see how large some Liability claims can become after road accidents to see why they think this way. The young lady that hit our car could have quite easily have hit any number of people who were out and about at that time on the campsite.

I was just wondering how they will approach the risks provided by e-scooters.

Tammygirl replied on 29/09/2021 16:54

Posted on 29/09/2021 16:54

WN, I guess things might have changed, its 31 years since we left Germanylaughing and close on 50 years since we went there. I don't think things like ebikes, escooters and quad bikes were items that folk had. 

At that time they were very insurance minded. It caught many a squaddie out.

I find insurance companies will always try to get out of any claim if they can writing in clauses to cover just about everything.

Lots of electric scooters over here, they now use them on some sites to escort you to your pitch. Lots of young children using them to, unlike ebikes which they can't until 14 years of age I believe.

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