Posted on 01/12/2016 15:36
I have just been reading how crowded UK roads are (as if we did not know)a survey of EU roads with the most congested"pinch points" where speeds are less than 35% of road speed,
1 UK 20,000
2 Germany,8517
3 Italy 5000
Top three UK
1 M25 junc 15 M4 to junc 16 M40
2 Edinburgh By pass
3 Glasgow A8/M8 junc
Posted on 01/12/2016 20:01
There is no such thing as a good day on the M25 but you are much less likely to encounter heavy traffic on the Continent. I have had no problems driving round Munich. Most days are good days.
peedee
...There are plenty of good days on M25 also ,but the Hype would not accept that
I used it Last Sunday to get to the M3 from the A41. For the M25 it wasn't that bad but it wasn't what I call relaxed driving either.
peedee
Posted on 01/12/2016 20:11
There is no such thing as a good day on the M25 but you are much less likely to encounter heavy traffic on the Continent. I have had no problems driving round Munich. Most days are good days.
peedee
...There are plenty of good days on M25 also ,but the Hype would not accept that
I used it Last Sunday to get to the M3 from the A41. For the M25 it wasn't that bad but it wasn't what I call relaxed driving either.
peedee
..You would not expect to "relax" on the M25 or any other road these days in our 20,000 pinch point delays little island, and a large ammount of drivers wanting to get everywhere yesterday
Posted on 01/12/2016 21:53
There is no such thing as a good day on the M25 but you are much less likely to encounter heavy traffic on the Continent. I have had no problems driving round Munich. Most days are good days.
peedee
...There are plenty of good days on M25 also ,but the Hype would not accept that
The best time to drive along the M25 is around 2:00am, although, a couple of years ago, we got on the M25 (coming back from Dover) in the early afternoon, we drove on it until the M40, and no hold ups at all. A first
Posted on 01/12/2016 22:36
Well, of course, in Hertfordshire, one would not travel via M25 and the Heathrow, M4 and M40 area,
Try it some time.!
A!so an ex 'Herts' guy may I ask how things are in Bishops Stortford, Welwyn, Harlow, Ware, Cheshunt, Broxbourne, Stevanage and Watford?
...Use those roads quite often M25 t0 friends off Junc 8 +M3 via "smart roadworks\\\\, ,and Hertfordshire is quite busy with the M11 ,A10,A1M and M1 trunk roads running through
Posted on 02/12/2016 09:07
The M25 is no worse than other motorways in the UK. I've used it for many years to get to Dover when crossing to the continent. Its not as bad as the M6/ M5 junction in Brum.
The answer to any conjestion in London itself is straightforward. :- . Make the busiest areas of London car free and only allow Emergency vehicles, commercial vehicles and public transport including taxis. . .
Cheers ......:..K
Posted on 02/12/2016 10:05
Well, JVB66, you have my commiserations and sympathy - M25/M23 (just short of Heathrow in a clockwise direction) has to be the pits. I still prefer the the other roads in Herts. At least the traffic flows up there rather than stop/starts.
..Not in the "rush?"hours the A1m (two miles from us), is a nightmare,glad we do not have to travel those times
Posted on 02/12/2016 10:14
I've not found the M25 too bad but have experienced problems on the M42/M6. I travel these roads infrequently so my assessment of conditions cannot be regarded as definitive any more than my experience of off-peak rail travel. It's probably only those who do these journeys on a daily basis that endure the full horror of them.
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