Covid - news and views

This thread could turn into Mornington Crescent! 

We have a couple near us at home. Just retired but anti vac. Are they more likely to transmit the more virulent version that we have now, they could certainly get it more easily and become ill and be admitted to hospital. 

I feel i was conned into my vaccination by being told it was the way to freedom

My primary reason for wanting / having it was to give me a much higher chance of avoiding serious illness and possibly dying, in the event I contract covid.

Just about every country in the world is having to adapt to the outcome of this virus but if we can vaccinate more there's less chance of a resistant virus mutation.

+1 fully.

As far as day to day life is concerned I suspect many of us can do more or less what we would have done pre COVID. The greatest impact is probably still having to wear a face mask. As much as I dislike wearing them self preservation is a big driver in making them acceptable. Same applies to having the vaccination. Having seen the impact of Polio on others when I was younger makes taking the vaccine a no brainer in my view. It is possible that even when the majority of restrictions are removed, masks may still be a requirement on public transport, at least until the Spring of next year. 

We now know a lot more about how COVID spreads which is almost exclusively by person to person contact in close proximity. Most scientists now say you can forget the odd Amazon box or washing your shopping as there has been no known cases of spread by this method. That is no excuse, of course, not to continue with good hand hygiene procedures.

My theory on why the Government has extended the last stage of lockdown by up to another 4 weeks is that the want to assess the impact of the Indian/Delta variant. At this stage in previous lockdowns the increase in cases has lead, several weeks later, to a big increase in deaths. As, I am sure, everyone is hoping that the vaccination programme has been a success in stopping that happening. If in a few weeks time there has not been a big uptick in deaths or hospitalisations the Government can proceed with some confidence that, subject to even worst variants appearing, that they can allow life to get back to some semblance of normal, if we remember what that is!!!

David

Agree with what you've said David. I'd also add one upside to masks and hygiene which has been the lessening transmission of colds and flu.

The major thing to recognise is that children have been relatively unaffected, thank goodness we have not had to see children suffering the effects that adults have done. 

I think we are a long way off normailty but at least we are a lot more free in the uk. The big test will be travel, with visitors arriving here and ourselves as visitors abroad. Just my thoughts.

David you are so right on your connection to polio.

My mums brother, now passed but would have been late 90's now swam in the river with a friend as a teenager. Friend contracted polio, my uncle didn't there by the grace of God??? What different lives they went on to lead 😪.

A very good example of doing it for yourself and others in our current situation.

Our daughter and family in NZ have been generally living pre covid ways, with a couple iof blips, since this time last year. But that comes at a cost no foreign travel without strict isolation on return. The country may be on our green list but you won't get in without meeting strict criteria and paying for your quarantine which starts when you are placed on a bus to the hotel as you leave the airport....... They've had less than 30 deaths but still get outbreaks on the manaditory isolation quarantine so keeping it out of the country this way appears to be working BUT they are a long way behind on vaccinations, so normal it ain't there either.......

Se you get to my age and with an OH who is not safe on her own ,we have probably done far more voluntary work than I would from the way you have spoken in the past you have ever done but most do not go on about it

And holidays? as the cardiac consultant ,advised me you are to old to be worried what others think when on extended holidays. Do it while you can and OH and i are doing as much as we can while we can 

so those who cannot your time will come if you can or want