Covid - news and views

brue replied on 08/02/2021 13:35

brue

Posted on 08/02/2021 13:35

It's good to hear that members of CT are receiving their vaccinations, good luck to all those yet to have theirs. It seems like a long haul till we get everyone sorted and hear the results of the present vaccines.

I'm leaving this open for non political comments as per the guidelines. Hope you can add your own experiences and thoughts.

My first jab comes up tomorrow, I'm so glad we have research institutions that have got us this far! And I am planning breaks away in the hope of improvements on the horizon.

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DavidKlyne replied on 17/03/2021 22:03

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Posted on 17/03/2021 20:49 by Wherenext

Let me see?

I can have the OAZ vaccine and run the risk of having a blood clot or I can decide not to have it and run the risk of catching Covid.

There was a fact given out at our Welsh Covid Update today which stood out for me. There had been 40 blood clot cases reported in the first 17,000,000 doses of vaccine given to the date the report was issued. So a (approximate) 0.0000002% chance of having a blood clot and this became even lower if I hadn't shown any previous signs of having a blood clot plus there was no Causal link to the vaccine and blood clotting.

The Welsh Minister for Health did also say that Covid patients are more likely to suffer blood clots than those who are Covid free. He was quoting Public Health Wales data.

I wonder whether those EC countries refusing to sanction this use understand that they may well be condemning larger numbers of their population to Covid death or serious long term problems rather than risk the lives of a very small minority of them. Why not just issue guidelines for those that suffer blood clots?

I had a look at my OH's Ibuprofen list of side effects and they make for grim reading but the extremely serious ones are very very rare. The tablet is sold in every Supermarket and Pharmacy in large quantities. You wouldn't take any medication if you only concentrated on the worst that could happen.

It's risk management.

Posted on 17/03/2021 22:03

On the question of blood clots Dr John Campbell (some you you will be familiar with his YouTube Channel) did a few calculations. He reckoned, on the information available, that the risks of dying from COVID were 1 in 400 without the vaccine. The risks of developing a blood clot having had the vaccine based on the information some European countries have offered is in the region of 1 in 300,000. As pointed out blood clots can be attributed to all sorts of causes. Be interesting to see what the EMA say tomorrow. If they continue to give it the all clear it just means that Europe is even further behind the vaccination curve than they needed to be.

David

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LLM replied on 18/03/2021 14:53

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Posted on 18/03/2021 14:53

Perhaps if the EU decided to stop using the OAZ vaccine they could send it to the UK to back fill our expected reduction in delivery from India. FOC of course .

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JohnM20 replied on 18/03/2021 15:58

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Posted on 18/03/2021 15:58

Of the 37 blood clots out of 17 million vaccine jabs so far reported does anyone know how many of these instances were serious and life threatening?

Wherenext replied on 18/03/2021 16:03

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Posted on 18/03/2021 15:58 by JohnM20

Of the 37 blood clots out of 17 million vaccine jabs so far reported does anyone know how many of these instances were serious and life threatening?

Posted on 18/03/2021 16:03

They have resulted in some people dying but I don't know how many. There still does not appear to be a causal link between the two.

To my mind it still doesn't make sense to stop them even if the vaccine was responsible for these clots. The chances of dying from Covid are far, far greater.

It seems perverse that people will shy away from the vaccine because of this suppose risk but still take their chance on avoiding covid for which the vaccine provides protection in many forms.

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brue replied on 18/03/2021 16:06

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Posted on 18/03/2021 16:06

Some info here in the BMJ, about the type of blod clots etc and WHO reporting the vaccine programe should continue. LINK

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brue replied on 18/03/2021 16:10

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Posted on 18/03/2021 16:10

Personally I think the EU is so weighed down with bureaucracy that any new circumstantial events will slow things up, although the original reports came from a non EU country, Norway. Reading Norwegian news is confising as they say they have also come up with a new Covid treatment!

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