COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked

InaD replied on 31/12/2020 18:53

Posted on 31/12/2020 18:02 by brue

Down in the SW we're starting to take patients from Kent and London even though our numbers are rising. What shocked me in the video clip was that new Covid patients were in younger age groups and in family groups and the NHS Professor said that it wasn't the new variant that was spreading it, just the inability of people to stick to the distance and hand washing rules etc. frown

Posted on 31/12/2020 18:53

Yes, brue, the bit about younger age groups and family groups was very worrying.  And in relation to the age groups, I've just read about a 55 year old teacher who has died from Covid, 2 days after Christmas, after a fortnight of treatment.  Apparently no underlying conditions.

I agree with the Professor's comments, it's not the new variant itself spreading it, but people not complying with instructions.  

Bakers2 replied on 31/12/2020 18:56

Posted on 31/12/2020 18:38 by Tinwheeler

The Exeter Nightingale is in use and I believe it's the only one in the country being used for covid patients. Staffing it is a problem.

Posted on 31/12/2020 18:56

One of the hospital's in our trust is 700 medical staff down at the mo 😱. Those working are being asked to cancel leave and there's incentive for working extra shifts.

Takethedogalong replied on 31/12/2020 18:57

Posted on 31/12/2020 18:57

The Manchester one has been in use for a while, however, it’s not being used for Covid patients, it’s being used to try and keep none Covid medical services operating. Including those who are suffering from long Covid recovery concerns. London’s is being readied at the moment.

Not sure about Harrogate, but then area is currently lowest it has been for a while, and most of Yorkshire’s big cities (Sheffield, Leeds) have more than one or two very big hospitals. 

InaD replied on 31/12/2020 19:06

Posted on 31/12/2020 18:56 by Bakers2

One of the hospital's in our trust is 700 medical staff down at the mo 😱. Those working are being asked to cancel leave and there's incentive for working extra shifts.

Posted on 31/12/2020 19:06

I read about the problems in Essex hospitals and an email being sent out to staff asking them to cancel their leave.  They must be in a dire position right now to do that.  I don't think some people realise that NHS staff are depleted to an extent, either due to them having the virus, or having to self-isolate due to being in contact with someone who has it.  It's not just a matter of having enough beds for patients.

brue replied on 31/12/2020 19:15

Posted on 31/12/2020 19:15

The nearest ICU units for some patients in Kent are Bristol and the Midlands, using a helicopter transfer. frown

JVB66 replied on 31/12/2020 19:23

Posted on 31/12/2020 19:23

There was a consultant on tv yesterday saying how short of staff they were ,and he had six covid patients  on ventilators two of which were his own staff

The ward sister i see advises that the Nightingale hospitals ,where staffed,  are being used for transferred  recovering patients  from other overworked covid wards, as there is not enough available specialist staff to work in them,

Wherenext replied on 31/12/2020 20:25

Posted on 31/12/2020 20:25

At this time of year the media like to come out with their Man/Woman of the year awards.

For me there is no one person deserving of this award rather  Every Person who works and has worked this year in the NHS, whether they be front line staff, managers securing PPE, Ambulance drivers, Porters, Care Home staff and Care workers out visiting folk et al deserves some sort of official recognition so lets make the NHS the "Person of the Year", at least on here.

The conditions these people work under, the stress, the fatigue, the sheer continuous of it all, day in day out defies description unless you know someone in that position. Let's not forget there have been many who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, particularly at the start, when PPE was a figment of the Governments imagination, some of them answering a clarion call for retired ex staff to return.

I sincerely hope those people who won't have the vaccine because they value their freedom will not infect one single person who increases the NHS's workload. 

Freddy55 replied on 31/12/2020 20:28

Posted on 31/12/2020 20:25 by Wherenext

At this time of year the media like to come out with their Man/Woman of the year awards.

For me there is no one person deserving of this award rather  Every Person who works and has worked this year in the NHS, whether they be front line staff, managers securing PPE, Ambulance drivers, Porters, Care Home staff and Care workers out visiting folk et al deserves some sort of official recognition so lets make the NHS the "Person of the Year", at least on here.

The conditions these people work under, the stress, the fatigue, the sheer continuous of it all, day in day out defies description unless you know someone in that position. Let's not forget there have been many who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, particularly at the start, when PPE was a figment of the Governments imagination, some of them answering a clarion call for retired ex staff to return.

I sincerely hope those people who won't have the vaccine because they value their freedom will not infect one single person who increases the NHS's workload. 

Posted on 31/12/2020 20:28

Well said.

Takethedogalong replied on 31/12/2020 20:52

Posted on 31/12/2020 20:25 by Wherenext

At this time of year the media like to come out with their Man/Woman of the year awards.

For me there is no one person deserving of this award rather  Every Person who works and has worked this year in the NHS, whether they be front line staff, managers securing PPE, Ambulance drivers, Porters, Care Home staff and Care workers out visiting folk et al deserves some sort of official recognition so lets make the NHS the "Person of the Year", at least on here.

The conditions these people work under, the stress, the fatigue, the sheer continuous of it all, day in day out defies description unless you know someone in that position. Let's not forget there have been many who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, particularly at the start, when PPE was a figment of the Governments imagination, some of them answering a clarion call for retired ex staff to return.

I sincerely hope those people who won't have the vaccine because they value their freedom will not infect one single person who increases the NHS's workload. 

Posted on 31/12/2020 20:52

+1 Wherenext. It doesn’t end on the Wards for them either, full strip and shower after getting home, extra precautions for washing uniforms, etc..... 

I dread seeing some of tomorrow’s headlines.

InaD replied on 31/12/2020 21:02

Posted on 31/12/2020 20:25 by Wherenext

At this time of year the media like to come out with their Man/Woman of the year awards.

For me there is no one person deserving of this award rather  Every Person who works and has worked this year in the NHS, whether they be front line staff, managers securing PPE, Ambulance drivers, Porters, Care Home staff and Care workers out visiting folk et al deserves some sort of official recognition so lets make the NHS the "Person of the Year", at least on here.

The conditions these people work under, the stress, the fatigue, the sheer continuous of it all, day in day out defies description unless you know someone in that position. Let's not forget there have been many who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, particularly at the start, when PPE was a figment of the Governments imagination, some of them answering a clarion call for retired ex staff to return.

I sincerely hope those people who won't have the vaccine because they value their freedom will not infect one single person who increases the NHS's workload. 

Posted on 31/12/2020 21:02

Well said WN.  I agree  100%.

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