COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked

Compo replied on 23/12/2020 21:58

Posted on 23/12/2020 21:58

"There are none so blind as those who will not see"

I've no idea who said it but I remember being told it at school. I think it means something like understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant. 

huskydog replied on 23/12/2020 22:03

Posted on 23/12/2020 21:16 by DavidKlyne

Are people not just observerving what they have seen. Given that there is hardly a person in this land who has not had their lives turned upside down by COVID is it not unreasonable that our politicians attempt to deal with the situation in a competent manner? It just seems to me that from what I have observed is that they have been chaotic and and over promised at every stage of the proceeding. When it becomes clear to the man in the street what needs to be done why do politicians seem unable to deal with things is a calm and measured way. Probably something to do with the personalities involved but I would suggest that Jeremy Hunt would have tackled the situation in a more measured way had he still been Health Secretary and would probably have the clout to rein in the PM. I also wonder if the announcement in the House of Commons about the mutated strain of the virus rather than it being mentioned by a scientist didn't cause the chaos we have seen at Dover over the last few days? There needs to be a calmer, more measured response to this crisis. The public will understand if they feel the people in charge are competent and dealing with everything in an honest way.  

David

Posted on 23/12/2020 22:03

Yes they may just be observing, but this country hasn’t seen anything like this in modern times ,and is a very fluid situation , the government is trying to balance the risk of death with the collapse of the economy. The practical thing to do is lock the whole country down for as long as it takes ,but that is not really possible. I don’t have the answers, but maybe the government on  all sides should work together to work out the best for everyone 

perhaps I should stop thinking out loud

Takethedogalong replied on 23/12/2020 22:18

Posted on 23/12/2020 22:18

It’s good to think out aloud sometimes Husky. And I fully agree that Parliament as a whole should have been involved, much earlier than now.

I certainly don’t envy those making the decisions, but I do question the, at times, lack of foresight, lack of being wholly committed to a course of action. No one can control how this terrible virus is mutating, but hedging and fudging around what to do, when to do it, and who, how and where is not helping, merely bouncing the case loads around and around. Control resources are simply not in place, or are applied after, rather than before an announcement is made. Playing catch up is so much more difficult.

SeasideBill replied on 23/12/2020 22:35

Posted on 23/12/2020 22:03 by huskydog

Yes they may just be observing, but this country hasn’t seen anything like this in modern times ,and is a very fluid situation , the government is trying to balance the risk of death with the collapse of the economy. The practical thing to do is lock the whole country down for as long as it takes ,but that is not really possible. I don’t have the answers, but maybe the government on  all sides should work together to work out the best for everyone 

perhaps I should stop thinking out loud

Posted on 23/12/2020 22:35

The key word there is ‘fluid’. In such situations I’m happier with those who take a dynamic approach to a problem, as opposed to the entrenched and dogmatic who, once locked into a solution, consider it a weakness not to stick with it come hell or high water or choose simply to follow others. The former might not appear elegant in approach, but for me, pragmatism and courage to change course if necessary always works better overall. 

replied on 24/12/2020 08:39

Posted on 23/12/2020 21:53 by huskydog

From what I’ve read and been taught he wasn’t that great a leader !

Posted on 24/12/2020 08:39

If we are doing quotes; "cometh the hour cometh the man".

With the invasion of Europe underway and confidence n Chamberlain having failed the country needed a populist leader with some tactical ability. 

 

cyberyacht replied on 24/12/2020 08:49

Posted on 24/12/2020 08:49

With the benefit of hindsight, although, IMHO the decision was wrong then, we have been playing catch-up ever since the Cheltenham Gold Cup. Money makes the decisions.

replied on 24/12/2020 09:04

Posted on 24/12/2020 09:04

Content has been removed.

replied on 24/12/2020 09:07

Posted on 24/12/2020 09:07

Content has been removed.

This topic has been locked, no new replies can be added.

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook