COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked

Not a chance - there's absolutely no way I'm going to touch someone else's thrown away mask - how about you, Mikey?

Does that also apply if they are in a support bubble.? Just asking as I am not sure.

I'm pretty sure 2 households living 20 miles apart can't really be called a "support bubble"!  

I will only pick up via the elastic straight into bin, then sanitize hands.

Sadly, off lead in open spaces, I can't always stop our puppy exploring 😱, much better on street walks, but that's not enough for an active 9 month old, however far I walk 🤣🤣 she's used to doing miles to my one mile! Yesterday her and I did 2 full hours walking around the streets, she came home with almost the same energy as she went out with 🙁.

Apparently crossing tier levels doesn't count for a support bubble according to the naked scientist on BBC East last evening when the question was raised, see if you can catch it in iPlayer. No staying overnight though.

For us in tier 4 it's just your own household UNLESS a support bubble, and then think think think!

How far distant for a support bubble? If my mum was still with us it would be 12 miles for us - more for my brother. Luckily/sadly/thankfully she spared us trying to resolve the issue 😢. 

With this new variant of the virus I do feel that it should be compulsory to wear a face mask in public, as long as one isn't exempt through illness. The Governments do not seem to want to go down the compulsory route but if this variant is more easily transmitted and stays in the respiratory areas of carriers then they shouldn't be given a chance to spread it to others.

No matter how careful we are there is always the chance of bad luck interceding.

According to the BBC site (and I assume they take their information from Gov.uk,) people in support bubbles CAN stay overnight. They can also cross tiers. My Mother-in-law is 89 (90 on Sunday) and lives 13 miles from us but she is in a bubble with us. Similarly her 87 year old sister is in a bubble with her daughter who lives in York. If it weren’t for the bubbles both of these ladies would spend not only Christmas Day but every day without seeing a soul.

”What is a support bubble?
A bubble is a group of people with whom you have close physical contact.
The aim is to help people who've been cut off from friends and family.
Bubbles must be "exclusive". Once in one, you can't start another with a different household. If you decide to change your bubble, you should treat your previous bubble as a separate household for 10 days before forming a new one.
People in a bubble can stay overnight in each other's homes, visit outdoors places together and do not have to socially distance, even in areas under tier 4 restrictions.
How do they work in England?
In England, single adults living alone - or single parents whose children are under 18 - can form a support bubble with one other household.
The second household can be of any size and can include "at risk" people who were previously shielding.
Wherever possible, the government recommends that a support bubble should be with another local household to avoid unnecessary travel. Anyone in the bubble contacted as part of England's test and trace programme must stay at home. If they develop coronavirus symptoms, everyone in the bubble must self-isolate.
Under the tier system, people are allowed to form support bubbles with those who live in a higher tier area, and bubbles can be cross-border with Scotland and Wales, subject to local restrictions.

Support bubbles, Tier4 Wales

If you are an adult living alone or are in a household with a single responsible adult, you can form a support bubble with one other household. This will allow you to spend time with the people in that household as if you lived with them.

Please see our guidance on seeing people in private homes for more information.

If necessary I would be support for youngest daughter and two grandsons. 39 miles