We need more basic facility sites

harryb replied on 29/08/2022 21:08

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:08

With the mention of the closure of High Onn and given that the club seem fully intent on pressing forward with the expansion to full facility sites by upgrading with serviced pitches, and different forms of self catering in glamping, yurts, pods and even airstream caravans etc it seems that those members who are on a more limited budget or even those who just prefer basics, are getting left behind. You might say we can use the cl system and that’s exactly what is happening. This is showing there is a demand by the number of fully booked cl’s. So why can’t the club come down to the more basic forms of caravanning and find and expand this type of site within the network. There are big gaps in the geographical area of the UK that could be opened up by developing this type of site. No doubt there would be an initial outlay but nowhere near the scale of that of a large scale flagship type site. The basic sites in the network now are priced at £17 (£18 from next year) and this comes in on a par with basic cl’s. There are thousands of members who would jump at the chance of this type of site being run under the club banner. The following counties are lacking in club sites, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Norfolk and Suffolk, amongst others, would benefit from this type of site

This is how caravan sites started off please don’t allow them to die.

 

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Wherenext replied on 30/08/2022 17:00

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:00

Why is the number of CLs reducing?

Actually there is a net increase in CLs this year. At least according to the figures provided by the "club".

Cornersteady replied on 30/08/2022 17:08

Posted on 30/08/2022 16:22 by young thomas

We used Black Knowl fairly recently, it's £43.20 a night at the moment. All those serviced pitches you say are the most popular choice are £48.10 - I'd say that was edging towards £50 a night....however, you probably won't agree, and that fine.

perhaps the sites you visit, up north perhaps, are a little cheaper? Down south, they ain't.

you seem to have an obsession with me and Concierge Camping. I went once, I think, to try it out. It was a good while back as it was £42 a night which we thought was expensive at the time but wanted to try it.

Our verdict was that it was a lovely site with fantastic facilities which really were a mile away from most other uk sites....but nice though it was, we felt it was too expensive to return to.

Unlike some users, we visit many different types of site at all points on the price spectrum and, IMHO, have a pretty good idea of what's out there.

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:08

It's not of question of agreeing or not it's what the facts and figures actually show BB.

You're using Black Knowl peak prices at the moment with a SP to justify your assertion that all club sites are edging towards £50 and you implied this was the case all the time and never a low season, after all you did post:

Prices edging towards £50 a night (there never seems to be a low season,

This is clearly not true even at Black Knowl if one looks at the prices.

Yes is that at the moment in peak for a service pitch is it £48.10, but firstly the number of service pitches are relativity few on this site 19 out of 121 so really I can't understand how you use a service pitch to say that is the price for that site or how it can ever be the most popular choice? But again popular is subjective lets stick to facts.

So the price now is as you say but go off peak in September the prices for the same SP goes down to £43.80 then £38.70 then even further in October down to £36.60, so much for there never seems to be a low season as clearly there is! 

And those prices include the extra £5 for a SP remember so take off those and we have roughly have £38.80 and £35.70 for September and £31.60 for October before the half term prices.

Also you appear to have missed off the part where you could stay at Black Knowl on a non EHU non awning pitch (perfect for your MH and more basic sites that you're after) and this brings the cost down to £34.60 now to a low of £18.20 in low. 

Down south, again if you look at plenty of sites there are no differences in prices btw. 

I just recall you saying after a few visits to CC you stated it was the gold standardwell worth the extra cost due to the extra high standards and what club sites should be like.

Like I said it's not about agreeing or not, just what the actual prices show.

 

Cornersteady replied on 30/08/2022 17:09

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:00 by Wherenext

Why is the number of CLs reducing?

Actually there is a net increase in CLs this year. At least according to the figures provided by the "club".

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:09

God news, I just picked that up from what posters have written on here. Hope the trend is increasing.

Cornersteady replied on 30/08/2022 17:21

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:09 by Cornersteady

God news, I just picked that up from what posters have written on here. Hope the trend is increasing.

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:21

sorry Good newsembarassed

I really do mean it btw, all for choice.

Tammygirl replied on 30/08/2022 17:35

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:08 by Cornersteady

It's not of question of agreeing or not it's what the facts and figures actually show BB.

You're using Black Knowl peak prices at the moment with a SP to justify your assertion that all club sites are edging towards £50 and you implied this was the case all the time and never a low season, after all you did post:

Prices edging towards £50 a night (there never seems to be a low season,

This is clearly not true even at Black Knowl if one looks at the prices.

Yes is that at the moment in peak for a service pitch is it £48.10, but firstly the number of service pitches are relativity few on this site 19 out of 121 so really I can't understand how you use a service pitch to say that is the price for that site or how it can ever be the most popular choice? But again popular is subjective lets stick to facts.

So the price now is as you say but go off peak in September the prices for the same SP goes down to £43.80 then £38.70 then even further in October down to £36.60, so much for there never seems to be a low season as clearly there is! 

And those prices include the extra £5 for a SP remember so take off those and we have roughly have £38.80 and £35.70 for September and £31.60 for October before the half term prices.

Also you appear to have missed off the part where you could stay at Black Knowl on a non EHU non awning pitch (perfect for your MH and more basic sites that you're after) and this brings the cost down to £34.60 now to a low of £18.20 in low. 

Down south, again if you look at plenty of sites there are no differences in prices btw. 

I just recall you saying after a few visits to CC you stated it was the gold standardwell worth the extra cost due to the extra high standards and what club sites should be like.

Like I said it's not about agreeing or not, just what the actual prices show.

 

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:35

Goodness me,  it concerns me that you think  £31.60 for a pitch in October is a reasonable price 😲

At the rate site prices are going up we will  be giving up our outfit and doing something else. 

We had hoped that we could still tour home and away, for another 10 years if we remain in good health.  At these prices I very much doubt it.

Its alright for those who are still earning to be 'happy'  to pay whatever is asked but they don't make up the majority of members ( I believe)  with all the other more important things in our lives rising in price something will have to go it would seem.

Shame as we've had an outfit since our early 20s.  Bought because it was an affordable way to holiday with 2 small children and flexible to fit in with OHs job.

CS,  you mentioned you saw a lot of SP being used, could it be that folk book them to guarantee a H/S. undecided  Until the new booking system is introduced,  where I believe we will get the option of pitch type,  it could be a person's way of securing a H/S.  Time will tell if that is the case. 

Tinwheeler replied on 30/08/2022 17:39

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:39

Let’s face it, you can’t even get a meal out for 2 for £30-ish these days. Times sure have changed.

Oneputt replied on 30/08/2022 18:05

Posted on 30/08/2022 18:05

Personally speaking if there were more non facilities sites like Thetford Forest  I would use club sites more often

young thomas replied on 30/08/2022 18:06

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:08 by Cornersteady

It's not of question of agreeing or not it's what the facts and figures actually show BB.

You're using Black Knowl peak prices at the moment with a SP to justify your assertion that all club sites are edging towards £50 and you implied this was the case all the time and never a low season, after all you did post:

Prices edging towards £50 a night (there never seems to be a low season,

This is clearly not true even at Black Knowl if one looks at the prices.

Yes is that at the moment in peak for a service pitch is it £48.10, but firstly the number of service pitches are relativity few on this site 19 out of 121 so really I can't understand how you use a service pitch to say that is the price for that site or how it can ever be the most popular choice? But again popular is subjective lets stick to facts.

So the price now is as you say but go off peak in September the prices for the same SP goes down to £43.80 then £38.70 then even further in October down to £36.60, so much for there never seems to be a low season as clearly there is! 

And those prices include the extra £5 for a SP remember so take off those and we have roughly have £38.80 and £35.70 for September and £31.60 for October before the half term prices.

Also you appear to have missed off the part where you could stay at Black Knowl on a non EHU non awning pitch (perfect for your MH and more basic sites that you're after) and this brings the cost down to £34.60 now to a low of £18.20 in low. 

Down south, again if you look at plenty of sites there are no differences in prices btw. 

I just recall you saying after a few visits to CC you stated it was the gold standardwell worth the extra cost due to the extra high standards and what club sites should be like.

Like I said it's not about agreeing or not, just what the actual prices show.

 

Posted on 30/08/2022 18:06

Although the prices show non EHU option...there's one pitch which is out of action!

And if you don't think £43.80 is edging towards £50 then we'll have to differ. Of course, for you it would be £48.10 as you have to have a SP...now that really is close to £50 or do you wish to debate that, too? 

like I said, it's not about agreeing or not, just about what the prices show😉

also, as TG mentions, i certainly don't think £31.60 in October (not even half term) is anything other than 'on the high side'.

...and I'm afraid your 'recollection' is failing you....we've certainly not had 'a few visits' to Concierge Camping...just the once, I think. Yes, compared to Club 'facilities' it has 'gold standard' loos, washrooms and showers, but I still think it's too highly priced to revisit.

perhaps you'd kindly put that little mistake to bed...thanks.👍

 

Cornersteady replied on 30/08/2022 18:21

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:35 by Tammygirl

Goodness me,  it concerns me that you think  £31.60 for a pitch in October is a reasonable price 😲

At the rate site prices are going up we will  be giving up our outfit and doing something else. 

We had hoped that we could still tour home and away, for another 10 years if we remain in good health.  At these prices I very much doubt it.

Its alright for those who are still earning to be 'happy'  to pay whatever is asked but they don't make up the majority of members ( I believe)  with all the other more important things in our lives rising in price something will have to go it would seem.

Shame as we've had an outfit since our early 20s.  Bought because it was an affordable way to holiday with 2 small children and flexible to fit in with OHs job.

CS,  you mentioned you saw a lot of SP being used, could it be that folk book them to guarantee a H/S. undecided  Until the new booking system is introduced,  where I believe we will get the option of pitch type,  it could be a person's way of securing a H/S.  Time will tell if that is the case. 

Posted on 30/08/2022 18:21

Well actually TG I never said anything was reasonable did I?

But I am touched that you are concerned about what I think is reasonable but there's no need at all I assure you. 

I'm not sure, though not concerned about you, that these people who are happy to pay the prices are not the majority of members. They are certainly happy to pay those prices if using sites I would say and sites in my experience this year, and in the view of the wardens I've spoken to, have never been busier.   Perhaps next year might be different? 

No those sites where I use SP are all HS.

Cornersteady replied on 30/08/2022 18:28

Posted on 30/08/2022 18:06 by young thomas

Although the prices show non EHU option...there's one pitch which is out of action!

And if you don't think £43.80 is edging towards £50 then we'll have to differ. Of course, for you it would be £48.10 as you have to have a SP...now that really is close to £50 or do you wish to debate that, too? 

like I said, it's not about agreeing or not, just about what the prices show😉

also, as TG mentions, i certainly don't think £31.60 in October (not even half term) is anything other than 'on the high side'.

...and I'm afraid your 'recollection' is failing you....we've certainly not had 'a few visits' to Concierge Camping...just the once, I think. Yes, compared to Club 'facilities' it has 'gold standard' loos, washrooms and showers, but I still think it's too highly priced to revisit.

perhaps you'd kindly put that little mistake to bed...thanks.👍

 

Posted on 30/08/2022 18:28

BB I'm not debating anything but just giving the prices and facts, you're the one who says all sites being edging toward £50 and no off peak not me, the truth is just using the price now to justify that is just plain wrong and incorrect. The prices are as I've given. As to CC well we'll agree to disagree as it can never be proved either way can it?

Now I'll stick to facts before being carried off topic. 

 

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