We need more basic facility sites

harryb replied on 29/08/2022 21:08

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:08

With the mention of the closure of High Onn and given that the club seem fully intent on pressing forward with the expansion to full facility sites by upgrading with serviced pitches, and different forms of self catering in glamping, yurts, pods and even airstream caravans etc it seems that those members who are on a more limited budget or even those who just prefer basics, are getting left behind. You might say we can use the cl system and that’s exactly what is happening. This is showing there is a demand by the number of fully booked cl’s. So why can’t the club come down to the more basic forms of caravanning and find and expand this type of site within the network. There are big gaps in the geographical area of the UK that could be opened up by developing this type of site. No doubt there would be an initial outlay but nowhere near the scale of that of a large scale flagship type site. The basic sites in the network now are priced at £17 (£18 from next year) and this comes in on a par with basic cl’s. There are thousands of members who would jump at the chance of this type of site being run under the club banner. The following counties are lacking in club sites, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Norfolk and Suffolk, amongst others, would benefit from this type of site

This is how caravan sites started off please don’t allow them to die.

 

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Tinwheeler replied on 01/09/2022 10:51

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:36 by peedee

What a shame that Harry's thread has now degenerated into a silly game of likes which are meaningless in the context they are being used.

I have already expressed my support up thread so I do not see my like as out of context at all.

peedee

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:51

See yours as you wish, PD, but I wasn't pointing the finger at any one person. I was commenting on the silliness. I'm surprised you feel you need to defend your 'like'.

Cornersteady replied on 01/09/2022 10:52

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:45 by peedee

I have just had a look at the C&CC forum and I cannot find a singel thread discussing low facility sites. I don't think they have any at all but my guess is that because they offer a far wider choice of pitch types on their sites members feel there is no need?

peedee

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:52

Again we now have a new term, low facility site is this what harry means by basic facility site? 

So (you know what's coming here) if the CCC appear to offer what harry and others are after why not use them? Why does it have to be under the banner of the club? What does the club banner have that others don't? (I know the answer or me btw but I'm prepared/happy/feel they give VFM... to pay to be under it).

peedee replied on 01/09/2022 10:59

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:59

And a point I raised earlier, what exactly is a basic facility site? Is it a non facility site with/without EHU? Or just not having SP, glamping..

The Club's model is grass or hard standing with EHU. If there was no EHU the site woudl be off grid which the Club does not have.

peedee

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 01/09/2022 10:59

Posted on 01/09/2022 09:30 by young thomas

And that's fine...but the rate of SP development is a mile away from that of 'non EHU' pitch development....or non facs for that matter.

Some want less provided the club can keep the price a bit lower, however the option isn't there.

As TDA mentions, we may soon be paying more for an awning pitch or a HS AND upcoming electric surcharges..

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:59

Why wait for the price to be lowered BB, why not start a movement based on a civic attitude & even better a save the planet attitude. You have rightly vaunted the use of own generated power now go the extra step by actually showing how committed to this non grid way you areπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ™…πŸΌ‍β™‚οΈπŸŽŠπŸŽ‰πŸͺ„

peedee replied on 01/09/2022 11:04

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:04

Again we now have a new term, low facility site is this what harry means by basic facility site?

Low or basic does it matter, I am sure most can interpret what is meant.

peedee

Tinwheeler replied on 01/09/2022 11:07

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:59 by peedee

And a point I raised earlier, what exactly is a basic facility site? Is it a non facility site with/without EHU? Or just not having SP, glamping..

The Club's model is grass or hard standing with EHU. If there was no EHU the site woudl be off grid which the Club does not have.

peedee

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:07

.....except at Steamer Quay. I think you forgot that one again.

SteveL replied on 01/09/2022 11:10

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:04 by peedee

Again we now have a new term, low facility site is this what harry means by basic facility site?

Low or basic does it matter, I am sure most can interpret what is meant.

peedee

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:10

To me Low would be a CCP Aire which has water / waste and EHU. Basic would be without the EHU.  However, that’s the problem with undefined terminology, everyone will have there own interpretation.

JVB66 replied on 01/09/2022 11:15

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:41 by Cornersteady

And a point I raised earlier, what exactly is a basic facility site? Is it a non facility site with/without EHU? Or just not having SP, glamping...

Reading harry's OP again it appears cost maybe the one true determining factor?

PS just noticed your addition, so basic means non facilities? Ok well plenty of sites that do not have them are still in Β£25 to above Β£30+ price range. 

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:15

With the security of onsite staff?

peedee replied on 01/09/2022 11:22

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:07 by Tinwheeler

.....except at Steamer Quay. I think you forgot that one again.

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:22

Ah! So I did. It is however an exception. Isn't it owned by the council and managed by the Club?

peedee

Muddywheels replied on 01/09/2022 11:24

Posted on 01/09/2022 11:24

Sorry for the long winded post but the OP caught my attention and I thought I might share my experiences

I bought my first caravan in 1984 - it was very basic with a foot pump for water and gas lights - we used farmers fields back then and had no need for EHU - we weren’t member of any clubs

Mid 90s we joined CC and C&CC and used CLs with our first deluxe all singing and dancing twin axle. We had 3 kids and EHU was essential. We all loved CLs even the kids. When the kids flew the nest the 2 of us continued to enjoy CLs until 2015 in various caravans.

2019 we bought our 1st motorhome and for the first time ever tried club sites for the convenience of walking instead of driving into locations. After many years staying on farms we found them not to our liking I’m afraid - too much like static caravan sites or holiday parks - and the prices!

In all our years vanning we never needed facilities bar the EHU, tap and CP but in recent years CLs with EHU are becoming very expensive and difficult to find space due to increased popularity so I’ve now added an inverter, gas tank and additional solar so we can take advantage of off grid CLs which are not as busy

We recently did 11 nights off grid using solar and £11 of gas (mainly for the fridge) despite the hot weather and paid £5 per night for pitches. We still showered, watched tv, used coffee machine and microwave so definitely not slumming it.

I was sceptical spending the money on off grid equipment but now convinced it will pay back in droves and we have as much space around us as we want

If we still had a caravan we would want fully serviced pitches where possible but now with a fully equipped Moho all we want is somewhere to park with a tap and CP when necessary 

I think everyone has different needs and many like shower blocks and serviced hard standings but for me especially with the increased glamping expansion it’s moving away from the club I joined years ago - more Haven than CC now

I’m increasingly looking for alternative places to stay not connected to CAMC and considering lapsing my membership

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