Use of service points

Mike Gadd replied on 23/03/2022 08:40

Posted on 23/03/2022 08:40

I think this may have been discussed before, but is there any rethink that this club would change their policy on the use of motorhome service points for a fee? Other clubs allow it, but not this one. Please don't reply saying that I should stay the night, this is not the point, we do stay, but sometimes this is not possible if the site is full. Being rejected from a club when they are full and refusing use of the service point when we are out of water feels churlish to say the least. Happy to pay for it!

replied on 25/03/2022 18:53

Posted on 25/03/2022 18:29 by allanandjean

WTG, If I knew what you were talking abut I could maybe offer a more detailed response however, what you posted was;

"there are posts showing evidence that there is a growing number of officially designated motorhome stops."

and then;

"And then come along all the reasons why allowing access to service points cannot possibly be done: reception closed, staff cleaning loos and so on. Just as on the ‘electric thread’ there are reasons why metering wouldn’t work – staff reception hours and so on. This shows the rigidity of the thinking in the Club."

So, that appeared to me to suggest, and thats the word that I used, that you wanted the club to change its position to suit you.

Like it or not the clubs position, as posted by DK, does appear reasonable and I would expect any potential use of services, by passing MHs, would be so restrictive as to be useless anyway.

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allanandjean replied on 25/03/2022 18:58

Posted on 25/03/2022 18:58

"I see nothing wrong with members of their own club requesting to use the MHSP of any club site...perhaps at a certain price, perhaps at certain times...

I find it annoying when MHers are cast as pariahs for 'wild camping, leaving waste everywhere' yet when they wish to make proper use of waste facilities at their own club (which has many, many such facilities) the club doesn't want to be involved."

Hi BB, I agree with you entirely, there is nothing wrong with asking, I just don't think that there is a snowballs chance of MHs being able to use facilities in anything like a reasonable, convenient, manner.

Whilst there will always be the van v MH debate, divide, whatever, I personally see no issue with MHs being allowed to use site facilities but wonder, does this reflect what you can do 'over there?

replied on 25/03/2022 19:24

Posted on 25/03/2022 18:58 by allanandjean

"I see nothing wrong with members of their own club requesting to use the MHSP of any club site...perhaps at a certain price, perhaps at certain times...

I find it annoying when MHers are cast as pariahs for 'wild camping, leaving waste everywhere' yet when they wish to make proper use of waste facilities at their own club (which has many, many such facilities) the club doesn't want to be involved."

Hi BB, I agree with you entirely, there is nothing wrong with asking, I just don't think that there is a snowballs chance of MHs being able to use facilities in anything like a reasonable, convenient, manner.

Whilst there will always be the van v MH debate, divide, whatever, I personally see no issue with MHs being allowed to use site facilities but wonder, does this reflect what you can do 'over there?

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Wherenext replied on 25/03/2022 19:52

Posted on 25/03/2022 19:52

As a caravanner can I just say that I have no objections to Motorhomers coming on site to empty and fill, for a fee mind, say £5. This could be achieved by restricting it to a time when one of the wardens was in the office, (to raise the barrier), say between 3-5pm. This wouldn't impinge on their WTD. Membership cards to be shown to avoid non members using facilities.

Why doesn't the club trial it at a suitable site or two?

I can't see CL owners being too happy with this arrangement as quite a few will be using cesspits. Paradoxically, I would object as a user of a CL seeing unknown vehicles coming onto the CL. Strange really and maybe illogical but that's the truth.

DavidKlyne replied on 25/03/2022 20:34

Posted on 25/03/2022 20:34

As I see it we have very little evidence, as far as I can tell,  that there is a large demand from members for this sort of service? The occasional person asking for this sort of service does not mean that the demand is widespread. If I am mistaken in my view that the demand for this service is limited I think the best option for those that want such a service is to write direct to the Club so they can assess what the demand would be. I also don't believe that someone leaves home for however many nights away and doesn't plan where they might need to empty their toilet or waste water. Places where you can do this in the UK, other than campsites,  are exceptionally limited. Some demanding this sort of service are very dismissive of the impact it could have on Club site arrangements. Even if the Club decided to offer this service but limited to certain times of day there would be protests from those that want everything to fit in with their agenda rather than the practical issues experienced by sites and their staff.

David

allanandjean replied on 26/03/2022 12:54

Posted on 26/03/2022 12:54

WTG, No, it’s not a case of not understanding, it’s rather that you don’t seem to like my saying that your posts suggest you want change.

You talk about “rigidity of thinking “ and “intransigence” yet for reasons unclear to me take offence at my saying that this “suggests” you want change?

As I say, personally I have no objection but think DK has, again, summed it up quite well in his last post.

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SteveL replied on 26/03/2022 15:53

Posted on 26/03/2022 13:59 by

 I have seen coin operated service points in France that require no staff intervention and seem like a good answer for those who want them. 

Posted on 26/03/2022 15:53

We’ve used one. It was outside the Aire, a former municipal site, which also allowed caravans. There was access to water inside but you would have had to fill the tank with a watering can. For 2€ it was easier to fill at the service point, which was of course available to those just passing by. One such was using it when we arrived.

replied on 26/03/2022 16:28

Posted on 26/03/2022 12:54 by allanandjean

WTG, No, it’s not a case of not understanding, it’s rather that you don’t seem to like my saying that your posts suggest you want change.

You talk about “rigidity of thinking “ and “intransigence” yet for reasons unclear to me take offence at my saying that this “suggests” you want change?

As I say, personally I have no objection but think DK has, again, summed it up quite well in his last post.

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SeasideBill replied on 26/03/2022 17:06

Posted on 26/03/2022 15:53 by SteveL

We’ve used one. It was outside the Aire, a former municipal site, which also allowed caravans. There was access to water inside but you would have had to fill the tank with a watering can. For 2€ it was easier to fill at the service point, which was of course available to those just passing by. One such was using it when we arrived.

Posted on 26/03/2022 17:06

Some of those coin operated service points also include automated toilet cassette cleaners, now that is luxury!

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