Smart Metering Trial

KieranBSMM replied on 05/04/2023 16:17

Posted on 05/04/2023 16:17

Exciting News! At Wyatts Covert Club Campsite we’re trialling Smart Metering, which means you will only pay for the amount of electricity you use during your stay.

The price quoted for bookings at this campsite excludes electricity (with campsite fees reduced accordingly) and we will only charge you for the precise amount of electricity you use during your stay.

This is something many members have been asking for and we’re really pleased to be able to trial it this year! Find out more at https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/smartmetering/ 

Rufs replied on 04/05/2023 18:08

Posted on 03/05/2023 17:30 by peedee

I do indeed have a self contained motorhome. All the motorhomes and caravans I have owned have been so. I have improved my current ones off grid capability simply to keep the battery in better condtion. All I had to do was buy and fit a 120w solar panel at a cost of £250, hardly an arm and a leg job. The battery is a standard AGM, a little bit smaller than as originally fitted. It was simply a routine replacement.

Most caravans and motorhomes are quite capable of going off grid for two to three days without any modification. It has always been so.

peedee

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:08

not sure peedee if your £250 120w solar panel is actually bolted onto your MH or is stand-alone but do you think this statement is pie in the sky or a distinct possibility

" fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU"

Cornersteady replied on 04/05/2023 18:35

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:35

So if I have done my sums, and recall the amounts, correctly the 'break even point' for P's stay is about 6.7 KwH per day?

Under that one would save money by doing the trial, over that and it would be cheaper not to if you have a choice. Doesn't sound a lot to me? Is it from those that have measured these things?

 

 

wedgy replied on 04/05/2023 18:38

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:38

This is something many members have been asking for and we’re really pleased to be able to trial it this year! 

In my recent stays at CAMC sites I have not spoken to any of the "club" members who were aware of this trial and when informed responded with looks of incredulity ! I don't believe that vast numbers of members were inundating the HQ with requests for a metered system although I would agree a small minority would see a benefit. This seems just another chapter in the never ending saga of the "Dash for Cash" business strategy of late as seen with the "new improved deposit booking system" followed by the dynamic prices structure which were again allegedly changes ask for by members? As for the DPS which was said to benefit early booking I have checked a few sites lately and the May 23 and May 24 prices are exactly the same so I can't see any benefit to be had. 

Takethedogalong replied on 04/05/2023 18:40

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:40

I don’t really care which site DD isn’t naming, in fact it’s a bonus that it’s actually in the UK, as we usually have to endure endless tales of overseas references in UK sites threads, so it could actually be seen as a plus🤣, and at least there won’t be endless Deleted User off topic posts and ultimately the whole thread closed, so it’s a win win and I am grateful for DD’s contribution, even if it is a mystery. 

Rufs, free standing solar panels were all the rage at one bit, nothing new. 😁

 

Rufs replied on 04/05/2023 18:55

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:35 by Cornersteady

So if I have done my sums, and recall the amounts, correctly the 'break even point' for P's stay is about 6.7 KwH per day?

Under that one would save money by doing the trial, over that and it would be cheaper not to if you have a choice. Doesn't sound a lot to me? Is it from those that have measured these things?

 

 

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:55

sure peedee will dispute, this, have no way of monitoring my usage, however, and at risk of getting this post removed, i can say that overthere 7kwH per day was about our usage, but like the business model, the weather is also a hugely contributing factor, will not expand in fear of getting sent to the sin bin laughing

Rufs replied on 04/05/2023 18:59

Posted on 04/05/2023 18:59

"Rufs, free standing solar panels were all the rage at one bit, nothing new"

yes i know but if folk now have no option to but use a metered pitch many might opt for something that was nice to have but was too expensive, if they see it as a cheaper option  

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peedee replied on 04/05/2023 19:50

Posted on 04/05/2023 19:50

fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU"

Rufs, I don't see it this way. It doesn't happen on the rally field where this no EHU at all, so why should it happen on a site which provides EHU even if metered. Some will just pay for what ever they use, some like me with the ability to go off grid with fixed solar panels on the roof on a short stay won't even bother hooking up, even in the winter. Motorhomes top up their leisure battery when on the move from one site to another or when they go off site for the day so may not even bother with panels. No doubt there will be some who will use portable panels but certainly not the majority.

FYI although I have a large motorhome, it is well insulated and retains it's heat well once warmed up and in use. My consumption using gas for heating and cooking with just a full sized fridge running on electric, boiling a travel kettle and keeping the battery topped up is typically 4Kwh a day. It used to amount to under £1 per day at the old metered rates!

peedee

replied on 04/05/2023 20:14

Posted on 04/05/2023 19:50 by peedee

fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU"

Rufs, I don't see it this way. It doesn't happen on the rally field where this no EHU at all, so why should it happen on a site which provides EHU even if metered. Some will just pay for what ever they use, some like me with the ability to go off grid with fixed solar panels on the roof on a short stay won't even bother hooking up, even in the winter. Motorhomes top up their leisure battery when on the move from one site to another or when they go off site for the day so may not even bother with panels. No doubt there will be some who will use portable panels but certainly not the majority.

FYI although I have a large motorhome, it is well insulated and retains it's heat well once warmed up and in use. My consumption using gas for heating and cooking with just a full sized fridge running on electric, boiling a travel kettle and keeping the battery topped up is typically 4Kwh a day. It used to amount to under £1 per day at the old metered rates!

peedee

Posted on 04/05/2023 20:14

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Rufs replied on 04/05/2023 20:21

Posted on 04/05/2023 19:50 by peedee

fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU"

Rufs, I don't see it this way. It doesn't happen on the rally field where this no EHU at all, so why should it happen on a site which provides EHU even if metered. Some will just pay for what ever they use, some like me with the ability to go off grid with fixed solar panels on the roof on a short stay won't even bother hooking up, even in the winter. Motorhomes top up their leisure battery when on the move from one site to another or when they go off site for the day so may not even bother with panels. No doubt there will be some who will use portable panels but certainly not the majority.

FYI although I have a large motorhome, it is well insulated and retains it's heat well once warmed up and in use. My consumption using gas for heating and cooking with just a full sized fridge running on electric, boiling a travel kettle and keeping the battery topped up is typically 4Kwh a day. It used to amount to under £1 per day at the old metered rates!

peedee

Posted on 04/05/2023 20:21

tks pedee, will bow to your experience of living off grid, but with all due respect i think you are a bit biased towards MH's, I think caravanners will have a different experience, e.g. they cant just go out for the day to top up their batteries, and as i alluded to earlier if they have to use e.g. motor movers to get on pitch and motor movers to get off pitch this will put a big strain on the onboard leisure battery, and a big strain on solar panels to top it up, but i guess it is going to be a case of suck it and see, and who is willing to pay for metered lecce, lwho knows i might have unbolted my tow bar before all this kicks off, hope you are enjoying your trip.

 

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