Plans for the Sandringham site

Cornersteady replied on 06/02/2024 21:07

Posted on 06/02/2024 21:07

This came up on my news feed on my phone tonight.

Sandringham Caravan and Motorhome Club expansion plans

Fifteen safari tents with built-in barbecues are included in plans to extend a campsite on the monarch's Norfolk estate near King's Lynn.

Proposals drawn up by the Caravan and Motorhome Club, which runs the 25-acre wooded site off the B1439 near Babingley, also include 28 new all-weather caravan pitches and 12 new camping pitches, along with two new toilet blocks.

Royal sources said the King would be consulted and would have to approve any alterations on his 20,000-acre estate, which he inherited after the death of Queen Elizabeth II in 2022. 

In a planning statement, the club says: "The Sandringham Estate Club Campsite is one of the most popular on the network and is often fully booked.

"The proposal is to extend the touring and camping facility to the south west of the existing site as the land lends itself naturally due to its topography and by being easily accessible from the existing road network.

"This area will be home to a mixture of all weather, serviced, premium and universally accessible pitches which will appeal to a wide range of visitors."

A small shop is included in the proposals, along with a dog and bike wash.

The club, which has 350,000 members, is upgrading its 200 sites to meet modern standards.

Sandringham receives rave reviews from visitors, who love its setting and the woodland walks, as well as nearby attractions and beaches.

But campers complain of poor Wifi and mobile phone signal on the site, where caravans and motorhomes can pitch up all-year-round for £21.90 a night for members and £36.90 for non members.

A decision is expected from West Norfolk council later this year.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/24096878.sandringham-caravan-motorhome-club-expansion-plans/

 

SteveL replied on 08/02/2024 15:43

Posted on 08/02/2024 15:43

We did a south-eastern uk tour last autumn and we stopped at Sandringham, but it was (like you) 'next door'....way cheaper and a very nice relaxing site which we've used before.

It is of course only way cheaper for you and us because of our age and time of year. Younger members actually pay around £1 a night more, for a HS pitch, as of course we would if we used it at peak. Presumably we are being subsidised.

young thomas replied on 08/02/2024 16:05

Posted on 08/02/2024 15:43 by SteveL

We did a south-eastern uk tour last autumn and we stopped at Sandringham, but it was (like you) 'next door'....way cheaper and a very nice relaxing site which we've used before.

It is of course only way cheaper for you and us because of our age and time of year. Younger members actually pay around £1 a night more, for a HS pitch, as of course we would if we used it at peak. Presumably we are being subsidised.

Posted on 08/02/2024 16:05

Steve, if someone wishes to cut their nose off to spite their face then that's up to them, but if two sites are adjacent and of similar 'quality' then why not go for one that substantially cheaper, therefore much better VFM?

you cant possibly believe that someone wouldn't go to the C&CC site 'because it's subsidised'?🤷🏻‍♂️

perhaps i should have gone to CAMC and paid much more as I was only getting the other site cheaper because I'm old.....👴

 

SteveL replied on 08/02/2024 16:50

Posted on 08/02/2024 16:05 by young thomas

Steve, if someone wishes to cut their nose off to spite their face then that's up to them, but if two sites are adjacent and of similar 'quality' then why not go for one that substantially cheaper, therefore much better VFM?

you cant possibly believe that someone wouldn't go to the C&CC site 'because it's subsidised'?🤷🏻‍♂️

perhaps i should have gone to CAMC and paid much more as I was only getting the other site cheaper because I'm old.....👴

 

Posted on 08/02/2024 16:50

I don’t see that I have suggested that you don’t take advantage of the age related rate YT, as we do ourselves. However, your post just stated that the site was way cheaper with no further information. That was misleading to anyone reading it who isn’t aware of the facts. It would have been more accurate to state that was with age related discount, as otherwise there is little difference in the prices.

DavidKlyne replied on 08/02/2024 16:52

Posted on 08/02/2024 16:52

The trouble with the "No Facility Sites" is that many of them were uneconomic to run and some even had to rely on "volunteer" members to run them. I am not sure whether you can legally run a permanent site, for which site fees are paid, with volunteers, surely that goes against the rules of the NMW? Some minimum facility sites like Hebden Bridge can probably succeed and there are probably a few others but clearly some can't. I am pretty sure the Club has a enough background information to work out whether no facility sites are likely to work. If given the choice I imagine that if the Club purchased a new site their first choice would be to develop it with the facilities the majority of members wanted. After all there are plenty of CL's around that more than meet that niche requirement. Don't get me wrong I don't mind no facility sites and have used quite a few of them over the years but I can't see how they are commercially viable? It is perfectly clear that a refurbished Sandringham site will be popular if the likes of Morn Hill and Cayton Village are anything to go by. I think even I would bulk at the  Premium Pitch prices but clearly some are willing to pay. 

David

Tinwheeler replied on 08/02/2024 16:58

Posted on 08/02/2024 16:58

I liked the non-fac sites too. During peak times they were often quiet as families didn’t seem to use them much. While this made them ideal for me, I can see that quiet sites not bursting at the seams wouldn’t be ideal from CAMC's point of view. 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/02/2024 17:29

Posted on 08/02/2024 17:29

That’s the difference with the “Club” nowadays, it’s made an active decision (for no doubt a few reasons) to ditch the economy side of its provision, and concentrate on generating more income on its premium end provision. It’s definitely touting the CLs (some) as it’s economy arm, and there’s been a definite shift towards monitoring Member spend (as in “as much as the Membership can stand parting with”) via enlarging the Marketing Dept and a good bit of number crunching going on, which in turn is driving the special offers, ditch this, add that on, selected dates only, etc…. deals that are on offer.

The Club knows it’s market absolutely spot on. It’s ageing, wanting a lot of the effort removed from actually touring, got the most income to part with in terms of cost of living, and there’s a good core of customers, existing and newly attracted who are happy to go with a brand that gives them a known world without any surprises no matter where they roll up. In fact, it the touring equivalent of a pair of Marks and Spencer’s knickers, reliable quality, won’t let you down, and very safe! 😁

No use to moan about the change really. It’s excellent marketing, future proofing the Club and it’s sites, giving the majority of Members (those with the spending power😉) what they want, and even if you cannot tow or drive a MH, you can still enjoy Club life in a different type of accommodation! Even the likes of us would try a Glamping Pod or Safari tent at a special offer price👍

peedee replied on 09/02/2024 07:06

Posted on 09/02/2024 07:06

perhaps i should have gone to CAMC and paid much more as I was only getting the other site cheaper because I'm old...

Shock.... I have just compared prices for a 3 night stay at the February half term at the Sandringham sites. The C&MC is £3 cheaper even allowing for the C&CC OAP discount. Even a C&CC grass no electric pitch is more expensive without the OAP discount. That is something of a turn around!

peedee

JollyKernow replied on 09/02/2024 08:34

Posted on 09/02/2024 08:34

There's a fairly long running thread on uk campsite peedee that talks about increasing prices with the other club. All those subsidies for others have to be picked up somewhere so I guess that will be the working age families.

JK

peedee replied on 09/02/2024 09:56

Posted on 09/02/2024 09:56

Probably a combination of the Club reducing prices for 2024 and the C&CC raising them. The latter do have some good offers later in the season.

Back to the proposed plans,

Royal sources said the King would be consulted and would have to approve any alterations on his 20,000-acre estate, which he inherited after the death of Queen Elizabeth II in 2022.

I would be very surprised if the estate was not consulted before the planning application was submitted to the council.

peedee

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