Plans for the Sandringham site

Cornersteady replied on 06/02/2024 21:07

Posted on 06/02/2024 21:07

This came up on my news feed on my phone tonight.

Sandringham Caravan and Motorhome Club expansion plans

Fifteen safari tents with built-in barbecues are included in plans to extend a campsite on the monarch's Norfolk estate near King's Lynn.

Proposals drawn up by the Caravan and Motorhome Club, which runs the 25-acre wooded site off the B1439 near Babingley, also include 28 new all-weather caravan pitches and 12 new camping pitches, along with two new toilet blocks.

Royal sources said the King would be consulted and would have to approve any alterations on his 20,000-acre estate, which he inherited after the death of Queen Elizabeth II in 2022. 

In a planning statement, the club says: "The Sandringham Estate Club Campsite is one of the most popular on the network and is often fully booked.

"The proposal is to extend the touring and camping facility to the south west of the existing site as the land lends itself naturally due to its topography and by being easily accessible from the existing road network.

"This area will be home to a mixture of all weather, serviced, premium and universally accessible pitches which will appeal to a wide range of visitors."

A small shop is included in the proposals, along with a dog and bike wash.

The club, which has 350,000 members, is upgrading its 200 sites to meet modern standards.

Sandringham receives rave reviews from visitors, who love its setting and the woodland walks, as well as nearby attractions and beaches.

But campers complain of poor Wifi and mobile phone signal on the site, where caravans and motorhomes can pitch up all-year-round for £21.90 a night for members and £36.90 for non members.

A decision is expected from West Norfolk council later this year.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/24096878.sandringham-caravan-motorhome-club-expansion-plans/

 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/02/2024 14:39

Posted on 07/02/2024 13:04 by Hja

So it is wrong to expect money that I pay to the club to be invested in facilities that support my type of camping. The “advice” is not to invest, not to use club sites, go elsewhere. That is obviously a really inclusive approach. We are not the only motorhomer or caravanner who do t want holiday park facilities on sites that we pay for. For information we very rarely use club sites because we don’t wish to pay for facilities we don’t need and don’t want. We do use some of the ccc sites because we can opt out of ehu and a consequent price reduction. We do use CLs but normally those not trying to imitate a club site. We also use Aires where available. So what does the Club provide for me? The certification process for CLs and whatever support the Club gives to CL owners. For me the balance of club expenditure is all wrong, hurtling as it is to holiday park types facilities.

Posted on 07/02/2024 14:39

You prove my point of there not being one size fits all in terms of sites. Some of your membership fee is spent on things you don’t want while some of Corners' fee is spent on things he doesn't want but you do. It’s swings and roundabouts and, overall, you both get what you want. I see no problem there at all.

Takethedogalong replied on 07/02/2024 14:52

Posted on 07/02/2024 14:52

Next time we go away with our friends, if we can get the special offers they do, we will go in a glamping pod. It was cheaper than hauling out the MH and paying for a pitch at Cayton Bay🤷‍♀️ Wouldn’t use them at the normal price, but then we don’t use Club Sites at the normal prices either🤣

young thomas replied on 07/02/2024 15:55

Posted on 07/02/2024 14:39 by Tinwheeler

You prove my point of there not being one size fits all in terms of sites. Some of your membership fee is spent on things you don’t want while some of Corners' fee is spent on things he doesn't want but you do. It’s swings and roundabouts and, overall, you both get what you want. I see no problem there at all.

Posted on 07/02/2024 15:55

Of course one size won't fit all, but equally most members want their views represented...you've obviously decided the club doesn't do it for you as you're no longer a member...proves a point, perhaps?

I don't think any member's money (the clubs money) pays for CLs...aren't these owned by those that run them?

...and as mentioned by posters upthread, the Club obviously isn't catering for all its members as some don't want money spent on pods etc...and certainly not at the expense of touring pitches.

...and posters putting random words in italics or bold doesn't make one person's view any more valid than anyone else's, does it?

its interesting to hear folk refer to Club sites as having 'all the bells and whistles'...IMHO they are pretty much at the basic to middle end of commercial sites we've used in the UK and typical resort sites all over mainland Europe....

if pods is the way forward then it verifies my stance that we remain members solely for access to CLs (not funded by the club).

 

Cornersteady replied on 07/02/2024 16:05

Posted on 07/02/2024 15:55 by young thomas

Of course one size won't fit all, but equally most members want their views represented...you've obviously decided the club doesn't do it for you as you're no longer a member...proves a point, perhaps?

I don't think any member's money (the clubs money) pays for CLs...aren't these owned by those that run them?

...and as mentioned by posters upthread, the Club obviously isn't catering for all its members as some don't want money spent on pods etc...and certainly not at the expense of touring pitches.

...and posters putting random words in italics or bold doesn't make one person's view any more valid than anyone else's, does it?

its interesting to hear folk refer to Club sites as having 'all the bells and whistles'...IMHO they are pretty much at the basic to middle end of commercial sites we've used in the UK and typical resort sites all over mainland Europe....

if pods is the way forward then it verifies my stance that we remain members solely for access to CLs (not funded by the club).

 

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:05

...and posters putting random words in italics or bold doesn't make one person's view any more valid than anyone else's, does it?

You've brought this up before C and as before  I use italics for words that are not my own but from others as I find it easier than using quotation marks, so they are not random at all and I use bold for emphasis, (see what I did there?) and of course it doesn't make it more valid, but why should it?

CLs are not paid for by the club but it was stated by the club somewhere that what they pay to the club does not cover the costs to the club sucg, advertising, search facility, the website, CL inspectors... so I am correct in saying my membership fees do go to those costs. As I have said I don't care.

young thomas replied on 07/02/2024 16:10

Posted on 07/02/2024 10:53 by Hja

I just wish to see more of MY money being spent on club facilities that benefit me. Very little of the currents club’s refurbishment programme helps enhance my uk touring.

i would like to see more sites without facilities blocks, every pitch with optional hook up, less emphasis on pristine grass edges etc. Even sites like Thetford, which used to be reasonably cheap, have been put onto this overly elaborate fees schedule.

A few sites with timed entry and fees per 24 hours would be a useful experiment.

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:10

Very interesting post. The concept mooted in your last sentence is one that's used abroad (of course) by Camping Car Parks in that your entry is timed.

also, many sites there have 'aire type' facilities attached to the main site so all types of customer can enjoy the type of pitch they desire/require...from the fully serviced ones to the smaller, cheaper, no facs type...

of course, there's no customer discrimination as all would be welcome to use reception services, the bar or lounge or pool or laundry or showers or......

....the only difference is the parking location and the price.

Cornersteady replied on 07/02/2024 16:20

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:20

Of course the biggest and best way for members to have their views represented, as in any business, is to actually buy the product being sold, or rather not to buy it.

In this case upgrades, SPs, glamping pods. Another way is numbers on club sites and which type of pitch and site sells the best. This is a far better indicator to the club than posts on a very small sample on CT that is not representative of its users.

SP, HS, upgrades sell well. Glamping pods sell well and bring in valuable all year round income to the club. Motorhomes use SP in far greater numbers now that caravans. Some MH users can't the logic in this but it is the reality.

The only thing the club will take heed of is falling income and despite repeated claims that there will be empty pitches down many years this has never happened.

 

 

 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/02/2024 16:21

Posted on 07/02/2024 15:55 by young thomas

Of course one size won't fit all, but equally most members want their views represented...you've obviously decided the club doesn't do it for you as you're no longer a member...proves a point, perhaps?

I don't think any member's money (the clubs money) pays for CLs...aren't these owned by those that run them?

...and as mentioned by posters upthread, the Club obviously isn't catering for all its members as some don't want money spent on pods etc...and certainly not at the expense of touring pitches.

...and posters putting random words in italics or bold doesn't make one person's view any more valid than anyone else's, does it?

its interesting to hear folk refer to Club sites as having 'all the bells and whistles'...IMHO they are pretty much at the basic to middle end of commercial sites we've used in the UK and typical resort sites all over mainland Europe....

if pods is the way forward then it verifies my stance that we remain members solely for access to CLs (not funded by the club).

 

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:21

I no longer have a need of any club so no point is proved at all.

I didn’t mention CLs but, seeing you do, there has to be an element of cost to CAMC (ie the membership) in overseeing the exemption arrangements, inspecting, advising, listing and so on. As I said, all the various sites are under the umbrella of CAMC.

Where I have used italics to quote a few words it is simply a matter of sensible layout in making the sense of the words clearer.

For some reason you state things in your reply to me that isn’t actually relevant to me or my posts which rather muddies the waters. 🤷🏻‍♂️

young thomas replied on 07/02/2024 16:32

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:21 by Tinwheeler

I no longer have a need of any club so no point is proved at all.

I didn’t mention CLs but, seeing you do, there has to be an element of cost to CAMC (ie the membership) in overseeing the exemption arrangements, inspecting, advising, listing and so on. As I said, all the various sites are under the umbrella of CAMC.

Where I have used italics to quote a few words it is simply a matter of sensible layout in making the sense of the words clearer.

For some reason you state things in your reply to me that isn’t actually relevant to me or my posts which rather muddies the waters. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:32


"I no longer have a need of any club so no point is proved at all."

From another thread...posted this afternoon

"At 50 years they give you free annual membership, a badge and a certificate. I recently got mine🤣🤣🤣"

how recent is 'recently', then?

I use the bold above as it is simply a matter of sensible layout in making the sense of the words clearer.....😉

im sorry some of the text may not have applied directly to you but they were just general observations from the previous postings....feel free to ignore👍

RowenaBCAMC replied on 07/02/2024 16:43

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:43

Can I please ask members to post about the topic and keep the conversation relevant to the OP. All views and opinions are welcome but we do ask that members keep discussions  friendly and free from arguments and disagreements as per our Community Guidelines. 

SteveL replied on 07/02/2024 17:08

Posted on 07/02/2024 16:10 by young thomas

Very interesting post. The concept mooted in your last sentence is one that's used abroad (of course) by Camping Car Parks in that your entry is timed.

also, many sites there have 'aire type' facilities attached to the main site so all types of customer can enjoy the type of pitch they desire/require...from the fully serviced ones to the smaller, cheaper, no facs type...

of course, there's no customer discrimination as all would be welcome to use reception services, the bar or lounge or pool or laundry or showers or......

....the only difference is the parking location and the price.

Posted on 07/02/2024 17:08

Of course land is generally a lot more expensive here and there is the small point that if CAMC did Aires there would be 6 metres between units. Meaning a reasonable area would be required even for a few vans. Given the club can sell them very easily and folk are asking for more, it surely makes business sense to invest your money and land in more service pitches rather than discount MH ones, which would hardly be inclusive unless they could also be used by caravans. I’m also not sure how much they would be able to discount them given that you say they would have access to all site facilities.

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