Flag poles and flashing lights

Oldgirl and Staffy replied on 13/06/2024 22:11

Posted on 13/06/2024 22:11

We have just returned from a Club site where the van next to us had a flag pole with flashing lights all the way up, and flashing lights around the edge outside their awning.     These faced our awning and were visible when we were sitting outside.  They were still flashing when I visited the facilities block at 2.00am as one is wont to do occasionally....

I really feel the Club ought to issue a policy on these intrusive illuminations not least because all members end up paying the cost of the electricity for their use when they are a distinct nuisance to those of us who enjoy dark skies at night.  Plus,   these lights can trigger epilepsy in sufferers so are more than just an inconvenience to some.

I think I will write to the Club to find out their thinking on this issue.  Whether I get a reply or not remains to be seen...

joanie replied on 17/06/2024 09:10

Posted on 17/06/2024 09:10

at one time a few years ago , people would have gone over and talked to the offending person, asking them to switch the lights off at night and that would be that, Then  a couple of years ago it was seen as the warden's job to sort it out, nowadays no one says or does anything until they get home and either contacts the club with their complaint  or writes about it on here , but nothing gets done . 

Recently I was on a site where a dog was tied up to a tree from early morning to late at night as the trade people from a few caravans went out in their vans working all day. The dog barked all day  but no one did anything, neither did we.  On the Friday as the dog got caught up in the plastic line, the warden came down , saw the dog was okay,  left and the dog carried on barking .

flatcoat replied on 17/06/2024 10:11

Posted on 15/06/2024 17:05 by onepjg

Jeekers, not sure I agree with this post, I mean Happy Christmas everybody.

I find it strange that we can have a vehicle, made from a huge number of different products that have an impact on the world, powered by fossil fuel, that roams the world, using pitches that could be used for many other things such as houses….and we feel we have every right to this……. but we aren’t happy that the guy next door put up a flag pole and had solar powered flashing lights !!! I’m lost for words, and that is quite unusual 🥺🥺😉

Posted on 17/06/2024 10:11

You can’t just turn a caravan site into a housing development willy nilly so such comparisons are ludicrous. I do however agree that whinging on here is pointless if no comment was made at the time on site! 

onepjg replied on 17/06/2024 20:48

Posted on 17/06/2024 08:20 by flatcoat

All this chatter about the costs and environmental impact sourcing materials is digressing. Personally I couldnt care less about those factors. For me it is very simple, they are tacky and have no place outside a seaside funfair or shopping centre. 

Posted on 17/06/2024 20:48

Who gets to decide what is and isn’t tacky, suitable etc ? As you have said they aren’t causing any harm, so what really is the issue, other than you feel they are tacky ? My friend thinks caravans are awful things and can’t understand why anyone would dream of having one …… but fully accepts it’s my and your right to, if that is what we want.

eribaMotters replied on 17/06/2024 21:28

Posted on 17/06/2024 21:28

A few years ago I was subjected to the owners perceived joys of a light pole. The next morning I politely requested he turn the thing off at 10pm and he obliged. But to be honest, I cannot see why I was put in this situation. They are light disturbance and annoying, shouting out, look at me. A caravan site is a shared place where we should respect other campers spaces and flashing a light across it is to blunt, as antisocial as loud music, dogs barking, kids kicking a ball at your van. Ban the things.

 

Colin

flatcoat replied on 17/06/2024 22:40

Posted on 17/06/2024 20:48 by onepjg

Who gets to decide what is and isn’t tacky, suitable etc ? As you have said they aren’t causing any harm, so what really is the issue, other than you feel they are tacky ? My friend thinks caravans are awful things and can’t understand why anyone would dream of having one …… but fully accepts it’s my and your right to, if that is what we want.

Posted on 17/06/2024 22:40

Where did I say they don’t do any harm?! I couldn’t care less about the spurious arguments about energy use, environmental impact, where and how they are made etc. However, I am surmising you don’t impose your caravan upon your neighbours holidays? Who gets to decide these awful lights and poles should be imposed on those of us who simply do not want them anywhere near us? I can pretty much guarantee you won’t see them on the continent, must be a peculiarly tasteless British ‘thing’. 

SteveL replied on 18/06/2024 09:28

Posted on 18/06/2024 09:28

It is a shame that when folk don’t like something there immediate response is that it should be banned. I seem to recall a thread a while ago where some members didn’t consider it acceptable to pitch with facing doors. Perhaps we should just accept that we are all different and work at getting along with our neighbours.

GEandGJE replied on 18/06/2024 10:37

Posted on 18/06/2024 10:37

I don't think there is a place for flag poles or illuminations of any type on a club sites. If that's what you want go to Blackpool,.don't inflict it on others.

DaveCyn replied on 18/06/2024 11:06

Posted on 18/06/2024 11:06

They are more prevalent on the rally fields than main Club sites.

 

The old National Rally sites used to be alive with them. Can't comment on the new format as we've never attended.

eurortraveller replied on 18/06/2024 12:15

Posted on 18/06/2024 12:15

Ah flags at rallies!  There’s one local centre with 35 rules of how to behave at a rally - including a warning that if the head prefect hoists a yellow flag one  is not allowed to move a car without his express permission.

Navigateur replied on 18/06/2024 14:00

Posted on 18/06/2024 14:00

 The Caravan Club claims to be all-inclusive so therefore we members have to make allowances for others who have differing mental abilities from ourselves.  Some persons find comfort and reassurance from these lights and while other members may be sleeping soundly through the night these other persons may not.

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