Flag poles and flashing lights

Oldgirl and Staffy replied on 13/06/2024 22:11

Posted on 13/06/2024 22:11

We have just returned from a Club site where the van next to us had a flag pole with flashing lights all the way up, and flashing lights around the edge outside their awning.     These faced our awning and were visible when we were sitting outside.  They were still flashing when I visited the facilities block at 2.00am as one is wont to do occasionally....

I really feel the Club ought to issue a policy on these intrusive illuminations not least because all members end up paying the cost of the electricity for their use when they are a distinct nuisance to those of us who enjoy dark skies at night.  Plus,   these lights can trigger epilepsy in sufferers so are more than just an inconvenience to some.

I think I will write to the Club to find out their thinking on this issue.  Whether I get a reply or not remains to be seen...

JillwithaJay replied on 14/06/2024 15:05

Posted on 14/06/2024 15:05

Shame somebody doesn't accidentally cut through the cables with a mower or strimmer.  wink

 

One of the main reasons I've heard for the flag poles is 'so that the kids can find the van'.  Lordy lordy!  Are they safe to be out alone?

 

DavidKlyne replied on 14/06/2024 15:43

Posted on 14/06/2024 15:05 by JillwithaJay

Shame somebody doesn't accidentally cut through the cables with a mower or strimmer.  wink

 

One of the main reasons I've heard for the flag poles is 'so that the kids can find the van'.  Lordy lordy!  Are they safe to be out alone?

 

Posted on 14/06/2024 15:43

Jill

Your post amused me because we were once at the Buxton Site and two units, in different parts of the site were flying Norwich City flags so not sure that would help the kids get back to the right van! 

I say give the kids a site plan and get them into map reading at a basic level, I don't think Google Maps would help, especially at Buxton!

David

flatcoat replied on 14/06/2024 16:29

Posted on 14/06/2024 16:29

To add to my earlier comment, when selecting a pitch we stay clear of any with a flagpoled or light festooned neighbour. Same applies with bird feeders which I have also seen. 

SteveL replied on 14/06/2024 16:40

Posted on 14/06/2024 16:40

Personally I don’t have any issue with either lights or flags, although I can see that the flashing variety could be harmful to folk with specific medical conditions. I  wouldn’t like to see a total ban on these items.  Perhaps the club could  outlaw the flashing variety and set a curfew of 11pm. As to flag poles I do think some are ridiculously high and a limit of say 1 metre above the outfit would be sensible. The power consumption argument doesn’t really fly. They are all LED these days and consume very little, compared to other appliances. Perhaps the club could try this approach first, if it doesn’t work a total ban could be imposed. For the record we don’t  have either a flag pole or flashing lights

mickysf replied on 14/06/2024 20:58

Posted on 14/06/2024 17:24 by Oneputt

I’m ambivalent so live and let live

Posted on 14/06/2024 20:58

I used to be indecisive, I’m just not sure any more.πŸ˜‰

Cornersteady replied on 14/06/2024 21:54

Posted on 14/06/2024 21:54

To Just to be factually correct about a few points in the OP.

Costs, really next to nothing, 100 LED bulbs would cost about one penny for every 12 hours they are on. If the OP has a tv in their outfit I'm paying for them as I never use a tv in mine!  

As to affecting those with epilepsy, it does not affect all sufferers, only 3 to 5% of all epilepsy sufferers have photosensitive epilepsy where a fit might be brought on by flashing lights and even then it has to be in in the range of 16 to 25 flashes per second so these lights on sites are very unlikely to be in that range. Also if you consider the amounts of flashing lights at Christmas in shopping centres, houses - inside and out, it's not really a problem in my view.

Also dark skies on a club site? At this time of year as well? There will always be some lights near service points and facilities in any case.

So it's really down to personal preference? Personally I don't mind them at all. 

onepjg replied on 15/06/2024 17:05

Posted on 15/06/2024 17:05

Jeekers, not sure I agree with this post, I mean Happy Christmas everybody.

I find it strange that we can have a vehicle, made from a huge number of different products that have an impact on the world, powered by fossil fuel, that roams the world, using pitches that could be used for many other things such as houses….and we feel we have every right to this……. but we aren’t happy that the guy next door put up a flag pole and had solar powered flashing lights !!! I’m lost for words, and that is quite unusual πŸ₯ΊπŸ₯ΊπŸ˜‰

Longtimecaravanner replied on 16/06/2024 11:28

Posted on 16/06/2024 11:28

So many times a beautiful view has been spoiled by someone's flag, which the owner can't see from his van as someone has said. But for us the worst is flashing lights as they bring on a migraine in my husband very quickly. You can carefully choose your pitch and then have a neighbour move and someone with lights etc turn up on there.

flatcoat replied on 17/06/2024 08:20

Posted on 17/06/2024 08:20

All this chatter about the costs and environmental impact sourcing materials is digressing. Personally I couldnt care less about those factors. For me it is very simple, they are tacky and have no place outside a seaside funfair or shopping centre. 

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