Exploiting the members

layton1837 replied on 21/01/2022 09:20

Posted on 21/01/2022 09:20

Why is it necessary for the club sites to seek excessive profits on  school holidays. My son has booked a pitch at Brecon beacon site for the Easter holidays. Cost per night for 2 adults and 1 child  £37.80 per night. The following week it would have been £ 27.95. What extra costs does the running of the site between the 2 weeks. .Nothing just exploiting the members because of the school holidays. Yet another excuse to make more money from the members when we already pay a membership fee.

peedee replied on 21/01/2022 12:13

Posted on 21/01/2022 10:35 by eurortraveller

A family owned campsite near me. 30 + pitches. Flat rate all season.

Posted on 21/01/2022 12:13

Its usually the adult only sites which don't charge seasonal rates or do not vary very much over the year.

peedee

Navigateur replied on 21/01/2022 12:55

Posted on 21/01/2022 12:55

I believe it is a very small fraction of the Club's income that is not derived from members, so who else are they to "exploit"?

flatcoat replied on 21/01/2022 13:02

Posted on 21/01/2022 13:02

1) No one is forced to use the clubs sites and if there are site owners out there who do not charge a peak season premium, then good for them. 2) The club is run as a business (Ltd company) for a reason.  if the club were run as a true members organisation I take it members would be happy to directly fund their share of losses? 3) can we assume those who moan about higher prices lead by example and sell their assets and services below the market rate? 

DavidKlyne replied on 21/01/2022 13:19

Posted on 21/01/2022 13:19

I think when this subject comes up, as it does from time to time, the poster does not think about the consequence if the Club followed a different path. I think Goldie's post about peak season prices being the real price of the site rather than the lower prices offered out of main season is probably spot on. The Club could even prices out across the year but I doubt that would result in peak prices coming down a lot but it would mean lower and shoulder season prices going up to compensate. I imagine every Club site has a financial plan which estimates the likely income for the year. This would be used to base staffing numbers and other costs on. In the off season there will be many sites that don't achieve the same level of occupancy as they do in the peak season. Any increase in prices in the non peak season could put some people off using the sites due to increased site costs which in turn puts more pressure on prices across the year so more than possible the actual saving in peak wouldn't be that different to what it is currently.  I would be interested to learn of alternative financial plans that would work and meet the estimate set for each site?

David

Takethedogalong replied on 21/01/2022 14:30

Posted on 21/01/2022 11:04 by brue

Find a CL, all in prices are excellent.smile

Posted on 21/01/2022 14:30

Another vote for CLs from me as well๐Ÿ‘ 

Tinwheeler replied on 21/01/2022 14:37

Posted on 21/01/2022 14:37

David has a point in suggesting a reduction in peak fees would lead to a rise in off peak charges. As it is, some fees are reduced mid week in off peak to entice people to use the sites at those times so an increase in off peak rates could see sites well under used at times. Underused sites could result in closures and/or further increases in rates to compensate.

Yet another case of being careful what you wish for?

Takethedogalong replied on 21/01/2022 14:48

Posted on 21/01/2022 10:57 by

My favorite spot ever is that on my avatar, .similar size bit pricey by Spanish standards. Flat rate all season 2 persons, huge pitch, pool EHU. โ‚ฌ27.

Posted on 21/01/2022 14:48

Yep site fees are a great price. But for a half term week break the ferry/ tunnel prices are a bit steep! ๐Ÿ˜

ScreenName Tracy LE replied on 21/01/2022 14:50

Posted on 21/01/2022 14:50

I am new to the club and after very many years of caravaning shocked at the member sites.  I realise that they are a business and need to make a profit , and with covid they need to recoup lost earnings too. However the way the prices are structured are confusing to newbies , I have found the booking system slightly off putting and it keeps changing the location and information I've put in .  

As this member has said, why so high in school.holidays, it is the only time you can legally allow children to holiday and for some people the only holiday period they can book. With a pricing structure that charges every person ,families are already charged more per pitch than a cpuple. I think it's just profiting. 

JVB66 replied on 21/01/2022 14:58

Posted on 21/01/2022 14:58

When as  posted on another thread we were in the process of purchasing an old PVC at a local caravan and motorvan dealership,

I mentioned how prices seemed to have really increased recently  ,and as the manager said ,market forces in this country especially lead on all fronts,

We were having a general chat and I mentioned the price of sites on the majority of organisations and he agreed that , it is a subject that is often spoken about, with customers  which he said is quite amusing ,when they are ,spending tens of thousands of pounds on an LV

Tinwheeler replied on 21/01/2022 15:38

Posted on 21/01/2022 14:50 by ScreenName Tracy LE

I am new to the club and after very many years of caravaning shocked at the member sites.  I realise that they are a business and need to make a profit , and with covid they need to recoup lost earnings too. However the way the prices are structured are confusing to newbies , I have found the booking system slightly off putting and it keeps changing the location and information I've put in .  

As this member has said, why so high in school.holidays, it is the only time you can legally allow children to holiday and for some people the only holiday period they can book. With a pricing structure that charges every person ,families are already charged more per pitch than a cpuple. I think it's just profiting. 

Posted on 21/01/2022 15:38

The club doesn’t need to make a profit as such because there are no shareholders wanting a hefty dividend payment. The club covers costs and ploughs surplus back into the system to upgrade sites or purchase new ones.

As for the pricing structure, I think just about every commercial site carries a per capita charge above, perhaps, 2 people. When you think of it, a family of 6 will use more water and make greater use of facilities than just 2 people so additional charges aren’t unreasonable, especially when you see the reduced or free offerings for children.

I don’t know what the issue is with booking as the system usually works very simply and accurately.๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป‍โ™‚๏ธ

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