Email regarding price increases

JillwithaJay replied on 21/03/2022 15:11

Posted on 21/03/2022 15:11

Anybody received this yet?

"We look forward to welcoming you shortly on our UK Club campsites.


Ahead of your arrival, we wanted to give you advance notice that we’ll be making a small increase to our UK Club campsite prices for stays between 5 April 2022 and 3 January 2023 inclusive.


The unfortunate and sad events which have engulfed the world in recent weeks have meant worldwide electricity costs have increased exponentially. In fact the Club's electricity costs are forecast to increase by an unprecedented amount of around 50% this year.


The fairest way for the Club to manage the rising cost of energy required to run our UK Club campsites is for all members to pay a little bit extra when staying with us this year. This small price increase will support the Club in the face of the rising cost of energy and also help ensure that we can continue to reinvest in improving the UK Club campsite network.


What this means for you:


The increase will be between 70p and £2.50 per night depending on the season and the campsite you are planning to stay on. These calculations are based on a standard touring pitch and two adults.
From 5 April 2022 you’ll be able to see the exact new price you’ll pay by logging into ‘My profile’ and clicking on the ‘My UK Sites Bookings’ section.


There’s no need for you to do anything, on arrival at the campsite you will be charged the appropriate amount.


We appreciate this price increase will not be welcomed, however we would like to share that members have saved over £12.5 million on stays at our UK Club campsite network since July 2020, as the Club passed on the full Government VAT rate saving to members.


We need your support to ensure our wonderful Club can continue to operate all of our amazing campsites at the same high standards during the busy summer season and into the winter, when we expect utility costs to rise further.


What can you do to help:


Below are a few hints and tips to help reduce the cost of electricity usage when you are staying on one of our campsites.


If you have a solar unit on your outfit please use it as much as possible
Make sure indoor and outside lights, any heating appliances and electrical equipment are all turned off when you go out for the day and overnight
We want members to enjoy many holidays with the Club this year, so thank you for your continued loyalty and support, and we wish you an enjoyable 2022 season of touring.


Best wishes
The Caravan and Motorhome Club"

young thomas replied on 24/03/2022 08:04

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:04

You may be right Steve, but if the winter leccy price increase is more than in the summer then prices are going to gradually even out across the year making out of season touring less attractive, again putting the cheaper touring of those finding prices more difficult at an increased risk.

can't go in winter, leccy too high. Can't go in summer, base brides already way too high.

customers need to be given the option to disconnect themselves from this spiral and if it reduces the amount of power supplied by the club then all the better.

 

SteveL replied on 24/03/2022 08:08

Posted on 24/03/2022 07:28 by young thomas

A few solar panels on a roof can certainly run lights in an office and perhaps the office equipment but we are talking about electricity prices on the pitch and powering a hundred pitches using heaters etc ain't going to happen with a few panels.

I can be self sufficient but I have 300w of solar. 

If each unit could manage their own power and site costs costs could be virtually eliminated but the club can't provide the sort of power we are talking about without the grid nor is it prepared to give a proper price reduction to anyone who can fend for themselves.

similarly, folk who don't camp off grid and usually arrive at a club site and expect to plug in at a reasonable price aren't going to invest in kitting up their vans as others do who camp at different types of sites/locations.

however, the squeeze is on and ever rising site power prices will gradually kill off customers who can't afford site prices and don't have the inclination/funds to manage their power needs themselves.

so we have the well heeled (in both camps)...those who can afford to continue touring despite higher prices and those who might spend that cash disconnecting themselves from the dependency of a hookup cable.

of course some might just go on a cruise and forget all about it...but there will be many who just have to give up what they are doing as prices spiral away.

the sad thing is that the club could easily provide a non EHU option, allow customers cheaper camping, let the customer take on the responsibility of powering their own unit and reduce the overall cost to the club.

win-win, you'd think?

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:08

Currently I would be more concerned about the cost of fuel affecting viability of our hobby. A choice is available over which site you use, nobody has to use those of the CAMC, if they can find a non EHU option that they prefer. Unfortunately there is no getting away from fuel. Which for us works out at 7.5 pence a mile more on this time last year. The two tours we did last year would come in at £225 more, equivalent to 90 site nights at the highest rate.

peedee replied on 24/03/2022 08:28

Posted on 23/03/2022 19:24 by Cornersteady

Does it matter why, ancient history.

And all those complaints you mentioned? I was certainly a member at the time and can't remember any? 

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:28

It matters because it reflects on the credibility of the Club. 

CT wan't around in 2004 but there were other forums were complaints were observed. I personally questioned the Club's actions at a Regional Members Meeting.

peedee

eurortraveller replied on 24/03/2022 08:29

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:29

As far as I know there already are about 17 Club sites with options of a pitch with or without electricity. Are the non EHU pitches popular?

mickysf replied on 24/03/2022 08:36

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:36

I suppose that responsible ‘wild’ camping, the use of Pub Stops and local community overnight stops will become increasingly attractive. May be the club needs to consider similar in these challenging and fast changing times and a move to be able to opt out of EHU on a pitch would be a start for many, particularly those with solar and those one night per site tourers. 

replied on 24/03/2022 08:37

Posted on 24/03/2022 07:28 by young thomas

A few solar panels on a roof can certainly run lights in an office and perhaps the office equipment but we are talking about electricity prices on the pitch and powering a hundred pitches using heaters etc ain't going to happen with a few panels.

I can be self sufficient but I have 300w of solar. 

If each unit could manage their own power and site costs costs could be virtually eliminated but the club can't provide the sort of power we are talking about without the grid nor is it prepared to give a proper price reduction to anyone who can fend for themselves.

similarly, folk who don't camp off grid and usually arrive at a club site and expect to plug in at a reasonable price aren't going to invest in kitting up their vans as others do who camp at different types of sites/locations.

however, the squeeze is on and ever rising site power prices will gradually kill off customers who can't afford site prices and don't have the inclination/funds to manage their power needs themselves.

so we have the well heeled (in both camps)...those who can afford to continue touring despite higher prices and those who might spend that cash disconnecting themselves from the dependency of a hookup cable.

of course some might just go on a cruise and forget all about it...but there will be many who just have to give up what they are doing as prices spiral away.

the sad thing is that the club could easily provide a non EHU option, allow customers cheaper camping, let the customer take on the responsibility of powering their own unit and reduce the overall cost to the club.

win-win, you'd think?

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:37

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Cornersteady replied on 24/03/2022 08:40

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:28 by peedee

It matters because it reflects on the credibility of the Club. 

CT wan't around in 2004 but there were other forums were complaints were observed. I personally questioned the Club's actions at a Regional Members Meeting.

peedee

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:40

No i don't agree.

So other forum complaints? in 2004? Ok well any real complaints to the club? I can't remember even any in magazine.

Anyway we are we are. Do you search out meter sites on your last tour? There isn't that many about?

JVB66 replied on 24/03/2022 08:46

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:37 by

I do wonder if part of the reluctance of CC Ltd to offer their EHU pitches at an accurate non-EHU price is the fear of their customers realising just how much OTT they have been charging for power through the "back door" route.  Let's face it transparency is not not one of their strong points.

 

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:46

The   use of electric bollards is not just for the electricity that you  use when plugged in

peedee replied on 24/03/2022 08:46

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:08 by SteveL

Currently I would be more concerned about the cost of fuel affecting viability of our hobby. A choice is available over which site you use, nobody has to use those of the CAMC, if they can find a non EHU option that they prefer. Unfortunately there is no getting away from fuel. Which for us works out at 7.5 pence a mile more on this time last year. The two tours we did last year would come in at £225 more, equivalent to 90 site nights at the highest rate.

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:46

There is no doubt the cost of fuel is a concern but there is little one can do about that other than curtail the distances you travel. On the other hand, if you have off grid capability it gives you the opportunity to cut costs providing suitable non EHU pitches are available but the problem  encountered by motorhome owners with these capablitiies is the lack of hard standing non EHU pitches. These are few and far between and while there are many more grass non EHU pitches there is a risk in using them,  that is if you manage to book them!. In the winter months and early in the season many such pithes are closed and you are only left with EHU hardstandings. Either way unless you can afford the increases, you are screwed unless you resort to using "unofficial sites". It could be there will be a rise in motorhome owners seeking these?.

peedee

JVB66 replied on 24/03/2022 08:59

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:46 by peedee

There is no doubt the cost of fuel is a concern but there is little one can do about that other than curtail the distances you travel. On the other hand, if you have off grid capability it gives you the opportunity to cut costs providing suitable non EHU pitches are available but the problem  encountered by motorhome owners with these capablitiies is the lack of hard standing non EHU pitches. These are few and far between and while there are many more grass non EHU pitches there is a risk in using them,  that is if you manage to book them!. In the winter months and early in the season many such pithes are closed and you are only left with EHU hardstandings. Either way unless you can afford the increases, you are screwed unless you resort to using "unofficial sites". It could be there will be a rise in motorhome owners seeking these?.

peedee

Posted on 24/03/2022 08:59

  1. In 2004 that is quoted of some complaints? about non electric pitches on sites it was about the same time that  electric was included in the pitch  charges and the explosion of motorcaravans and solar panel had not arrived, ,and probably by those who did not want? electric with the previous system but as known by many wardens it would be same people who would plug in at night
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