Club prices getting silly

richardandros replied on 25/10/2021 14:18

Posted on 25/10/2021 14:18

I'm not one who normally complains about site fees. It's quite simple - you either accept them, or you don't! We are both fortunate in that we are retired with good pensions and don't have to count the 'pennies' too much.  However, I have just attempted to book two nights at Broadway as a stop-over on our way to Devon, next June. For two people on a normal hardstanding pitch on 5 June (not a peak holiday period), we are being asked to pay £39.40 and for the following night, £35.10 - that's over £74 for two nights.  Compare that with 14 nights at the C&CC site at Dartmouth - which is lovely and just as good, if not better than most CAMC sites - for £311.

I think this is ridiculous and will be looking elsewhere.

That said, I am not averse to paying premium prices if it seems justified - we will be paying something like £37pn at Sandringham, this Christmas - but I would expect that at that time of year due to increased demand - but not in what I see as a 'low/mid season' period.

I don't use Club sites very often and if this is the way things are going, together with the threat of introducing deposits I can't see me using them at all in the future.

Rant over - but I think this is a step too far.

 

Cornersteady replied on 04/02/2023 21:23

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:08 by

Just yesterday had notification mine is14% and guess what it doesn't  make me feel any more like patronising overpriced sites than before.

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:23

Well of course, you used club sites quite a bit before and when you had to stay in the UK you chose all club sites for your longer stays, so of course there is no change in wanting to use them more?

KjellNN replied on 04/02/2023 21:31

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:19 by Tinwheeler

Good for you! I’ve not heard about mine yet.

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:31

Neither have I, but not expecting it to increasing by other than the bare minimum.

I have an index linked increase on what is required by regulations, which is only on part of my pension, the other more than half gets "discretionary" increases........otherwise known as virtually nothing.

Not much one can do in the private sector, one takes it, or should have gone elsewhere.

Cornersteady replied on 04/02/2023 21:37

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:15 by nelliethehooker

 Also if you are going to invest money it is better spent on upgrading the facilities that the majority of people want. 

David, how do you know that it is those sort of facilities, is serviced pitches, that are wanted by the majority? Perhaps by the most vocal members, but are you sure that is what is wanted by the silent majority?

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:37

Do you really think being one of the most vocal, or one of the silent majority (I assume you mean on here?) makes any difference at all to the club's planning? as a poster on CT I would like to think so but I doubt it's true - they didn't listen to me about deposits?

Wouldn't the club look at occupancy rates and how much members are happily willing to pay to stay on SP? From my experiences and a few others on here (the most vocal - a new label?) who actually use club sites and/or who are serving wardens they are extremely popular, there is no denying that is there? 

They are wanted not because of anything posted on CT but by the simple idea that people use them a lot. 

And the silent majority, if they are silent how does anyone know what they really want? 

Tinwheeler replied on 04/02/2023 21:43

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:31 by KjellNN

Neither have I, but not expecting it to increasing by other than the bare minimum.

I have an index linked increase on what is required by regulations, which is only on part of my pension, the other more than half gets "discretionary" increases........otherwise known as virtually nothing.

Not much one can do in the private sector, one takes it, or should have gone elsewhere.

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:43

Exactly. Did you never consider leaving the scheme and going with another pension provider?

Incidentally, twice as much as your state pension is a considerable sum and outstrips my occupational pension.

Cornersteady replied on 04/02/2023 21:49

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:31 by KjellNN

Neither have I, but not expecting it to increasing by other than the bare minimum.

I have an index linked increase on what is required by regulations, which is only on part of my pension, the other more than half gets "discretionary" increases........otherwise known as virtually nothing.

Not much one can do in the private sector, one takes it, or should have gone elsewhere.

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:49

My middle daughter is in the private sector and hers will be index linked?

You could have taken out a private pension?

But off topic now.

SteveL replied on 04/02/2023 22:08

Posted on 04/02/2023 19:10 by brue

As said before tax allowances aren't. I think it will be harder for many this year and it's worth searching around if needed. 

However CAMC say they are going to promote some offers, just when is the question?! Have they reduced some pitch prices already I wonder, I think there maybe some adjustments going on? 

Posted on 04/02/2023 22:08

However CAMC say they are going to promote some offers, just when is the question?

So far all the CAMC sites we have booked, some under the old system, some under the new, have increased in price. I suppose there is still time for special offers but they may well not reduce it back to what we will pay. The CC’s policy seems to be to try and get folk to book early to fix the price and of course as a result get lots of lovely deposits in the bank.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/02/2023 22:09

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:49 by Cornersteady

My middle daughter is in the private sector and hers will be index linked?

You could have taken out a private pension?

But off topic now.

Posted on 04/02/2023 22:09

+1, I was in the private sector many years ago & I still get up to 5% unless inflation is  above 5% then it tracks it🤷🏻‍♂️

DavidKlyne replied on 04/02/2023 22:12

Posted on 04/02/2023 21:15 by nelliethehooker

 Also if you are going to invest money it is better spent on upgrading the facilities that the majority of people want. 

David, how do you know that it is those sort of facilities, is serviced pitches, that are wanted by the majority? Perhaps by the most vocal members, but are you sure that is what is wanted by the silent majority?

Posted on 04/02/2023 22:12

Nellie

As CS points out I am sure the Club do their homework on the statistical use of serviced pitches v non serviced pitches. I suspect they are are unlikely to provide such facilities if they think no one will use them? From an observational point of view, which of course can only be a snapshot, it seems that service pitches are very popular. What we don't know yet is the impact of the new booking system which allows the booking of a hardstanding whereas in the past the only way to guarantee a hardstanding was to book a serviced pitch. I fully accept that from the Club's point of view that a service pitch provides more revenue so that could be a motivation as well? I just wonder how many of us, if invited to design a campsite, wouldn't put in all serviced pitches?

David

KjellNN replied on 04/02/2023 22:20

Posted on 04/02/2023 22:20

I have been retired 16 years now, probably things have moved on as regards pensions.  These days they are index linked, but  this only  came  in from somewhere in the 90s.

I joined my employer in 1975 and was with them for 32 years, earning maximum final salary pension under their scheme. Never though I should pay money into an additional scheme.

Only part of my pension comes under the index linking rules. The part earned before that gets minimal if any increase.

I thought a final salary pension would be sufficient for our needs, OH has no pension of her own due to disability, but this unexpected inflation is of course not good.  Our fuel bills are huge.

However, what I get is much more than the basic state pension, so we are still fortunate in that respect.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/02/2023 22:26

Posted on 04/02/2023 22:20 by KjellNN

I have been retired 16 years now, probably things have moved on as regards pensions.  These days they are index linked, but  this only  came  in from somewhere in the 90s.

I joined my employer in 1975 and was with them for 32 years, earning maximum final salary pension under their scheme. Never though I should pay money into an additional scheme.

Only part of my pension comes under the index linking rules. The part earned before that gets minimal if any increase.

I thought a final salary pension would be sufficient for our needs, OH has no pension of her own due to disability, but this unexpected inflation is of course not good.  Our fuel bills are huge.

However, what I get is much more than the basic state pension, so we are still fortunate in that respect.

Posted on 04/02/2023 22:26

I was given the option of paying extra into my company pension & whatever I put in my company matched it. That didn’t need a second thought I jumped at it! Plus the BOGOF shares deal👍🏻. My advice to anyone is invest in yourself & if you get a company to invest extra too pick it up & run with it to the max.

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