Charging electric cars on Club sites.

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I don't see the issue with asking for an extra fee if folk intend to charge an EV. No need at all to go down the expensive route of installing meters. Folk will be honest enough to pay it, as they do with other charges.

Do wardens count the number of children, who may have remained in the vehicle? Or on sites that charge, count the number of dogs? I suspect they just rely on folk being honest. So why any problems in doing the same for EV's.

At present, if we partially charged our EV on a site we'd probably still be using less electricity than others with lots of appliances and heating systems. I can see why the club feels all is ok just now. We could also blame van manufacturers for increasing electrical usage on site etc etc. I am quite happy for hybrid owners to charge up their relatively small batteries and at the moment they are the more likely car owners who will be seen doing so. If the club notices any upsurges in electricity usage I'm sure they will act accordingly but just now it won't be happening.

If you're on a site this year, check out how many hybrids and Evs are around, I think the count will be quite low but maybe we'll start to see changes over the next two years?

you have used electricity overnight to charge the EV in addition to your usual consumption.

There you go again, your usual consumption - there is no such thing. There is no pre set limit (apart from the 16A) that you are suggesting that everyone should dictate or use and anything above that is as you put it previously taking advantage.

Think of this, I buy a new TV for the caravan which I didn't have before, so now my usual  consumption has now gone up? Of course it has and that has now become my usual consumption. I then buy a cordless drill and so that now becomes my usual consumption. I decide to charge my new camera, use my new microwave? slow cooker, I change from a 750W kettle to 2.5Kw or what ever new electric device I buy. Because I am on holiday not some boot (green) camp I will use what ever electricity (up to 16A or Kw) I need to enjoy my time away. Whatever I use is my now my usual consumption.      

This is the point everyone is making, you will be using additional electricity that has to be paid for.

First of all everyone is making ? Where did you base that on?. everyone. There are posters on both sides I think you'll see if you actually go back and read them? 

As for paying, that is the case for my new slow cooker, new 2Kw kettle, new TV and now my new EV. Have you never bought a new device that need electricity for your caravan? Well why should I pay for that increase in your usual consumption? Are you saying your devices are all OK and anyone else's are not based on your views? When you stop using all your electricity devices then maybe you may have a point. Yes all our electricity has to be paid for but it is paid by the club, not you or me. The club decides a pitch fee which has an all inclusive electricity built in. Just like any other leisure company that sells all inclusive holidays, food, wine...  we accept the price and the club pays the bill.

EV owners cannot realistically expect all members to pay an increased pitch fee to cover these costs

Actually I can, for one thing I don't state which electrical devices you or anyone uses within their limit, why should you? and secondly it's the future I am sure that when EHU were rolled out a similar argument was made. Thirdly if the club does put up it's prices then members can then make their choice by not coming to club sites. But as one who says they don't use club sites that much why are you bothered?

 

Glad to see you're not part of the K's 'everyone' 

exactly, what is one personal usual consumption without an EV maybe much higher than another's consumption with an EV

I do really think that it is the idea of getting 'free' car energy or fuel that people are basing their view on. People who quite happily use their full allowance on whatever balk at using the same on EVs

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There seems to be a false argument here.  Which is charging up my EV uses less electricity than someone who runs loads of appliances. Why can’t someone do both? They  are not mutually exclusive, just because you have an EV it doesn’t automatically mean you are a low user of electricity in other aspects.  I am not against electric vehicles far from it but why should they be subsidised?   Metered pitches are the obvious solution, if you want to charge your Tesla or heat your awning then fine you pay for it.  I can’t see how anyone object to this, as with the possible exception of Malcolm Mehta, no one on here is profligate in their use of electricity, we’ll no one is owning up. 

I think the subject matter should return to the OP's opening post and NOT to discuss one member by name, his personal life and his personal preferences.

+1, good point M

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