Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

Navigateur replied on 28/12/2017 16:53

Posted on 28/12/2017 16:53

Warning signs should be used to make people aware of the dangers.  H&SE.

Indeed.  Keep away from yellow snow and orange cables.

ClubMember9AFDA8904E replied on 28/12/2017 16:55

Posted on 28/12/2017 16:55

Click, the BBC Gadget program did a feature on Electric Formula car racing in Japan (I think) over the past few weeks.   It did feature an insulated hook that is used by the safety crew when the car in is the pits.     Their orders are to observe the mechanics/technicians and if they start shaking to pull them away from the car..... So I guess EV have their own issues regarding safety.

Navigateur replied on 28/12/2017 17:08

Posted on 28/12/2017 17:08

They will only shake if it is alternating current.  Direct current causes rigidity.  Even in the few seconds before death while you know you know you are being electrocuted, you cannot pull away.

brue replied on 28/12/2017 19:52

Posted on 28/12/2017 16:55 by ClubMember9AFDA8904E

Click, the BBC Gadget program did a feature on Electric Formula car racing in Japan (I think) over the past few weeks.   It did feature an insulated hook that is used by the safety crew when the car in is the pits.     Their orders are to observe the mechanics/technicians and if they start shaking to pull them away from the car..... So I guess EV have their own issues regarding safety.

Posted on 28/12/2017 19:52

Did they also show you how they rescued milkmen from their broken down floats?  Is there some sort of hook needed? undecided wink

Navigateur replied on 28/12/2017 20:36

Posted on 28/12/2017 20:36

The only milk float I ever worked on was 24 volt.   Not 650 volts.  The higher voltage is part of the "make it work at any cost" effort.

jamsie replied on 28/12/2017 21:09

Posted on 28/12/2017 21:09

To my mind the 16 amp provision is essentially provided to meet the habitation needs of campers. EV were not invented when the EHU bollards were introduced.

EV are simply vehicles powered by electricity. Electricity is the means of propulsion. Other cars use petrol or diesel.

If the Club starts providing or allowing EV to be charged via the current 16amp bollards they are treating EV Owners more favourably than other members with vehicles powered by petroleum or diesel. 

 

replied on 28/12/2017 21:13

Posted on 28/12/2017 21:13

If the Club starts providing or allowing EV to be charged via the current 16amp bollard

The CC already allow it

replied on 29/12/2017 01:49

Posted on 28/12/2017 21:09 by jamsie

To my mind the 16 amp provision is essentially provided to meet the habitation needs of campers. EV were not invented when the EHU bollards were introduced.

EV are simply vehicles powered by electricity. Electricity is the means of propulsion. Other cars use petrol or diesel.

If the Club starts providing or allowing EV to be charged via the current 16amp bollards they are treating EV Owners more favourably than other members with vehicles powered by petroleum or diesel. 

 

Posted on 29/12/2017 01:49

Anyone who buys an EV has to pay almost double the price that they would pay to buy a petrol or diesel car. So they have already paid for the power it uses in the price of the car. So there is no justification in an additional cost for providing a re-charge of a battery that is using no more power than any other domestic appliance that is plugged in to a 13 amp socket.

ocsid replied on 29/12/2017 07:01

Posted on 29/12/2017 01:49 by

Anyone who buys an EV has to pay almost double the price that they would pay to buy a petrol or diesel car. So they have already paid for the power it uses in the price of the car. So there is no justification in an additional cost for providing a re-charge of a battery that is using no more power than any other domestic appliance that is plugged in to a 13 amp socket.

Posted on 29/12/2017 07:01

Not a view that I share in; any so called "additional cost" has not been paid to the CMC for free charging. The cost to owners has been taken by the vehicle builder and their retailing structure.

Indeed, there is no additional cost over the build cost, taxes and margins, quite the opposite, as a chunk of the vehicle's more expensive cost has been covered by a government subsidy.

A cost placed on me and all other taxpayers for the hoped for long term health benefit of those living in densely populated areas.

Not something I disagree with, though I certainly disagree with any suggestion the  owners should now be given their fuel and vehicle fuel tax for free from now on, and not by such a third party like our club.

replied on 29/12/2017 07:29

Posted on 29/12/2017 07:29

Just because somebody chooses to use an EV vehicle does not mean that they deserve free fuel for life Malcolm.

 

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