C&CC closing sites

Tinwheeler replied on 16/07/2021 19:22

Posted on 16/07/2021 19:22

I read elsewhere that C&CC are closing some sites and cancelling people’s bookings due to staff shortages. Sure enough, it's true and they've updated their website today. I hope nobody here is affected.

C&CC site closures

 

 

brue replied on 12/10/2021 20:31

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:31

I don't know how businesses are going cope with the rising cost of utilities, supplies and staffing levels. I am surprised more sites haven't closed, it's going to be a tough winter.

JVB66 replied on 12/10/2021 20:33

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:33

Our local Lloyds Chemist has a notice in their window asking for "multiple staff vacancies available in this store,  hours to suit successful applicants

young thomas replied on 12/10/2021 20:39

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:39

With the massive boom in campervan/MH purchases and, reputedly, not a pitch to be found in the UK, surely the signs should read "now hiring, top salaries paid"?

at least you might get some applicants...

mickysf replied on 12/10/2021 20:43

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:43

Our town is really struggling with labour supply, particularly the service industry. I also note super markets less well stocked now and one I went into today actually apologising over the tannoy for stock depletion.  Nothing to do with panic buying. What is the world coming to? 

brue replied on 12/10/2021 20:46

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:46

A sharp pull up, rather like the events following the financial crash, we'll get through it but have to accept change.

DavidKlyne replied on 12/10/2021 20:49

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:12 by Takethedogalong

It’s possible the Club might have a bit of thinking to do for the future. They have relied historically on recruiting Site Staff from the Membership, and site staff are often, but not exclusively, early retirees looking for a change of direction, and time spent working in nice places. They haven’t really had to offer premium wages, but that might just be changing a little bit now. The Club is like many other big organisations, it’s front of house workers, those who interact daily with the public can make or break member visits, and this should be reflected in rates of pay. Commitment works both ways. 

Then there is HQ. Situated in the most expensive area to live and work, just how many staff are now in there, given that a great deal of staff are reputed to be working from home? Is East Grinstead (the building) paying its way, or would Members Fees be better spent on the Sites? Many other institutions, not least the BBC and Channel Four, have looked at alternative offices in lower priced areas of the country. There are some huge six figure salaries now in East Grinstead with a great deal to mull over. I am not exactly sure what the ratio of Site staff to HQ staff is within the Club, but I have absolutely no doubts that the wage/salary allocations to each will be vastly different. Even taking away the Director level salaries. Lots and lots of thinking🤔

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:49

I can assure you the Club HQ is not that grand!!! Its all very well suggesting that the HQ would be cheaper in another part of the country but many of the staff at East Grinstead have years of experience that would be lost if they transferred to a cheaper part of the country. I doubt the Club have anywhere near the budget of the BBC!!! I think also you underestimate the cost of actually moving which in the end would come down to what the members pay either in the way of subscriptions or campsites. I would be disappointed if there were nor £100,000 plus salaries for some members of Club management. The market rate is defined by the level of salaries that the people of similar capabilities would earn elsewhere. 

David

Cornersteady replied on 12/10/2021 20:49

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:39 by young thomas

With the massive boom in campervan/MH purchases and, reputedly, not a pitch to be found in the UK, surely the signs should read "now hiring, top salaries paid"?

at least you might get some applicants...

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:49

You might get applicants but what is a top salary?  Is it 10% more than the average for that job? 20%?

Can any business afford to pay more than the going rate? 

 

mickysf replied on 12/10/2021 20:54

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:46 by brue

A sharp pull up, rather like the events following the financial crash, we'll get through it but have to accept change.

Posted on 12/10/2021 20:54

What will be the interesting thing is who will be instrumental in that pull up? The ‘labour force’ or the ‘employers’. Maybe that worm 🪱  is turning! I think we have to realise it is going to be a fundamental change we will be forced to accept. We live in interesting times.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 12/10/2021 21:11

Posted on 12/10/2021 18:34 by JVB66

Did you read your own post?undecided

Posted on 12/10/2021 21:11

Thanks👍🏻

DavidKlyne replied on 12/10/2021 21:16

Posted on 12/10/2021 19:02 by Cornersteady

How do you know that club sites are run on a shoestring? I see well maintained large sites with multiple sets of wardens in most cases, good facilities and up to date equipment?

But in any case it has often been pointed out that it is pointless comparing prices and/or economics with the UK and other countries. I might as well ask why Costa charges two/three times the prices for a (inferior in my view) coffee here? One just has to accept it, or not pay. 

 

Posted on 12/10/2021 21:16

Surely it is pretty obvious? The Club provide a pitch, water and waste, electricity and toilet block. That surely  is fairly minimalist? OK we have a few sites that go beyond this with restaurants and swimming pools but they are very much the exception. On the other hand in Europe the latter is fairly common place at prices, certainly out if season much lower that what the Club charge. Now there is nothing wrong with the way the Club do things as many seem to quite like it but clearly all sites and organisations have their own way of doing things. There is no right or wrong way of doing things and its all swings and roundabouts as you have to pay for a crossing to get to Europe and there is also the insurance so by the time you add all that the costs probable balance out?

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