Caravan sites opening and safety measures feedback

Posted on 19/07/2020 13:37 by KjellNN

From what I have read here, there has been very little reduction in the number of pitches in use on sites.

Apparently only those adjacent to service points have been taken out of use.

Posted on 19/07/2020 12:15 by royandsharont

Over the years there has been many conversations on CT over the sole use of onboard facilities, by the very small minority of Club members who use CT I might add, and when reading them it always appears that those who do so, think that everyone else should, without a thought or care for others needs. From observations of camping on the continent, where most of our camping is done, I feel confident in saying that almost everyone uses the site facilities for everything, showers, toilets pot washing etc. and there are many more campers there than here by a long way. In fact many don't even have water onboard! I personally don't follow that regime but I am mindful of those that want or need to use the facilities, after all that is what they are there for and you are paying for. I haven't camped with children but I imagine to get a family of young children through all the bathroom processes could prove very difficult, especially given the space in most motorhomes whilst caravans do seem to have larger bathrooms where this may be more possible. Then what about the disabled members whose disability means that there would be no way they could physically use their onboard facilities, I have a friend who cannot in their motorhome. So before we get into another long disagreement on this sensitive topic lets all be a little mindful about others and their needs or desires may be very different from ours and keep to the topic on which I might add I would have expected everyone who uses any of the facilities to use antibacterial wipes on all the surfaces they touch before and after doing so. This would help the wardens and all the other campers as well as themselves to keep safer. I'm hoping the members leave the toilets in particular cleaner than what they often did in ours, and many others, experience pre pandemic 

Posted on 19/07/2020 12:15 by royandsharont

Over the years there has been many conversations on CT over the sole use of onboard facilities, by the very small minority of Club members who use CT I might add, and when reading them it always appears that those who do so, think that everyone else should, without a thought or care for others needs. From observations of camping on the continent, where most of our camping is done, I feel confident in saying that almost everyone uses the site facilities for everything, showers, toilets pot washing etc. and there are many more campers there than here by a long way. In fact many don't even have water onboard! I personally don't follow that regime but I am mindful of those that want or need to use the facilities, after all that is what they are there for and you are paying for. I haven't camped with children but I imagine to get a family of young children through all the bathroom processes could prove very difficult, especially given the space in most motorhomes whilst caravans do seem to have larger bathrooms where this may be more possible. Then what about the disabled members whose disability means that there would be no way they could physically use their onboard facilities, I have a friend who cannot in their motorhome. So before we get into another long disagreement on this sensitive topic lets all be a little mindful about others and their needs or desires may be very different from ours and keep to the topic on which I might add I would have expected everyone who uses any of the facilities to use antibacterial wipes on all the surfaces they touch before and after doing so. This would help the wardens and all the other campers as well as themselves to keep safer. I'm hoping the members leave the toilets in particular cleaner than what they often did in ours, and many others, experience pre pandemic 

Posted on 19/07/2020 13:52 by JVB66

Depends on how many service points on the sites

Posted on 19/07/2020 16:15 by DavidKlyne

In some ways it matters not what people have done previously as we are in uncharted waters during the current crisis and sites have not been open a month yet. Opening toilet blocks was always going to be the achilles heel of reopening sites. They will be the point of risk over all else that takes place on a campsite. The Club have tried to mitigate that risk by only partially reopening toilet block by restricting access and numbers. Members obviously have to also take responsibility for how their action impacts on others. Not sure about antiseptic wipes as they are likely to be flushed down the toilet which is not a good idea!!! The Club have asked members to use their own facilities if at all possible so that pressure can be taken off the reduced capacity. Whether someone uses their own facilities or not is completely up to the individual what I suspect is more difficult to understand amongst those of us that advocate being independent of toilet blocks is that many seem unable to consider such a possibility? There will be genuine reason why some can't. As mentioned disabilities and perhaps the ability to lug water and waste around because of frailty. But if push came to shove are people really saying that they would have prefered sites not to have opened if the toilet block had to remain closed?

David 

Posted on 19/07/2020 15:59 by KjellNN

Obviously the bigger the site the more service points, so look at the site plan and subtract 2 pitches per point most likely, will depend on the layout.  Hardly a large number compared to the total pitches on a site.

Posted on 19/07/2020 16:44 by JVB66

At FM there are five service points just on the west side that has a majority of handstands thats about £300 per night with 10 pitches out ,for just two adults (before Vat reduced price)

Posted on 19/07/2020 17:49 by KjellNN

JVB......we are not considering money here, rather physical distancing and keeping people safe.

You cannot put a price on a life!   If you, or I , were to catch this virus, our prospects would be very uncertain.

The more people on site, the more risky it is.

If the  Club needs to dig into its reserves, delay a new purchase, put off a site upgrade, it is not the end of the world.  Life is more important.