Campsites closing at the end of the 2024 season

RowenaBCAMC replied on 11/07/2024 11:22

Posted on 11/07/2024 11:22

In recent years the Club has acquired some fantastic new campsites for members including Dornafield in Devon, Carnon Downs in Cornwall, Bridport in Dorset and Cayton on the Yorkshire coast. Collectively these campsites provide over 160,000 additional pitch nights per year for members. This year the Club is also busy improving Edinburgh, Godrevy in Cornwall, Tredegar House near Newport, Blackpool South, Steamer Quay in Devon and Old Hartley in Tyne & Wear, with new hardstanding pitches, additional serviced and premium pitches, new playgrounds, multi-use games areas, shower blocks, inclusive bathrooms and road resurfacing. 


Sadly, a handful of our Club campsites have underperformed for a number of years, with the amount of members staying at these campsites reducing annually. Operating these campsites has become unsustainable and puts more pressure on other Club campsites to return a positive revenue contribution back to the Club to enable investment in the existing campsite network and the purchase of additional campsites to enhance the network. 


As such, we have taken the difficult decision to close Bromyard Downs, Broomfield Farm, Dockray Meadow, Gwern-y-Bwlch and Nunnykirk Club Campsites at the end of the 2024 season. Combined, these campsites provide around 250 pitches to members, which is less than 1% of our UK Club campsite network pitch availability.


While closing campsites will be disappointing for some members, our UK Club campsite network provides approximately 180,000 more available pitch nights than in 2018 across fantastic locations that are popular with the wider membership.


Thank you to those of you who have supported these campsites over the years. We hope you will enjoy exploring our UK campsite network and finding a new favourite location and Club campsite.

eurortraveller replied on 25/07/2024 14:04

Posted on 25/07/2024 13:46 by GEandGJE

Correct TW. Club Council is made up of the Club Executive, Nominated Members and representatives from each of the regions and divisions, who are elected directly by the membership. If members want to have say in how the club operates or should operate, join your local division and go along to their meetings and make your views known there.

Posted on 25/07/2024 14:04

I am not asking for a say but would like more information.We get very little back from club council or executive committee - publishing the minutes of their meetings would be a start. 

GEandGJE replied on 25/07/2024 14:48

Posted on 25/07/2024 14:04 by eurortraveller

I am not asking for a say but would like more information.We get very little back from club council or executive committee - publishing the minutes of their meetings would be a start. 

Posted on 25/07/2024 14:48

Again any organisation that makes public the minutes of it's meetings would be very foolish. A report from the AGM and Club Council meeting are published in the club magazine. 

peedee replied on 25/07/2024 15:15

Posted on 25/07/2024 11:24 by TimboC

The reason we elect Council members is to make decisions like this. Should be demand a rationale behind all of their decisions?

 

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:15

At least a bit more information than just "unsustainable" Are the sites leased or owned, were any alternatives considered?. Anything more would help understanding a little better. As it stands it is all down to under use, but one poster has pointed out there are 45 seasonal pitches in use on Nunnykirk!

As for sweetening the pill by pointing out what has been done in other areas, did we really need Dornafield when the Club already has four sites in the area?

peedee

 

peedee replied on 25/07/2024 15:18

Posted on 25/07/2024 14:48 by GEandGJE

Again any organisation that makes public the minutes of it's meetings would be very foolish. A report from the AGM and Club Council meeting are published in the club magazine. 

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:18

But it is supposed to be a Club not a business!

peedee

Tinwheeler replied on 25/07/2024 15:21

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:21

Surely "unsustainable" means that it can’t continue as it is. That is, in this case, lack of use equals lack of income and a drain on resources. What more do you need to know?🤷🏻‍♂️

Rowena's second paragraph explains the situation well.

Takethedogalong replied on 25/07/2024 15:24

Posted on 25/07/2024 14:04 by eurortraveller

I am not asking for a say but would like more information.We get very little back from club council or executive committee - publishing the minutes of their meetings would be a start. 

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:24

I asked a few years ago if Minutes from Regional and Local meetings were available, but never got an answer. Haven’t been able to find any no matter how deep I dig on CAMC website. You might need to be registered with a Region, or Local centre to get any details, but these are to all intents and purposes public type meetings, in a similar vein to LA meetings. It would be very useful if Members could access Minutes from Regional Meetings, as well as those of the AGM, as it would give an idea of what is happening throughout the different areas. Most of the Regions, Local Centres do have an active list of events and rallies. 

The Club does publish its AGM minutes, and the Financial Statement each year, but beyond this, there’s very little that Members can reference in terms of how decisions have been arrived at, and any options discussed before major changes, closures, monies spent, etc… are made. It wouldn’t be practical to ask “ the Membership” as a whole on every operational issue, but other than trying to attend regional meetings, or the AGM, there doesn’t appear to be an obvious conduit of finding out about most of the major changes that come about. The most obvious thing that seems to happen, is that a decision is discussed and made, and the Membership gets to know after that decision is agreed. It’s the why, who and how bit that isn’t obvious.  

 

peedee replied on 25/07/2024 15:33

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:33

I don't know about other Regions but certainly my region produced minutes last time I looked.

peedee

TimboC replied on 25/07/2024 15:34

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:18 by peedee

But it is supposed to be a Club not a business!

peedee

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:34

Of course its a business.

Tinwheeler replied on 25/07/2024 15:45

Posted on 25/07/2024 15:45

Whether a business or not, it has to be financially viable and sustainable. It doesn’t have to or need to make huge profits but it needs to keep its head above water and generate sufficient income for growth. Otherwise, there would be no future at all. It's simple logic.

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