When is a CL not a CL?

After digging around in Google and finding legislation in Acts of Parliament that are longer than War and Peace with more sections and sub-sections than I care to list I have come to the following conclusion.

Hopefully I will see out the time I can partake of my hobby before the demise of the cl system.

I wonder if those that dont want any change actually use Cls and are happy to see their demise. As someone here has pointed out they have halved in his vanning times.

Not me. I’m keen to see them continue which is why I’m against putting the system in jeopardy by ignoring breaches of regulations.

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If the OP was happy to ignore the extra units I really don't understand why he made this post. I have stayed on many CLs over the years and only a very small number have exceeded the 5 van rule. This tended to be on large sites with plenty of room and often was just for one or two nights and no, I have not reported them or confronted them.

Many CLs have six or seven EHU points to give more pitch choice.

My pet hate is CL owners that allow members to stay till mid afternoon on departure day. 

The Caravan Club and The Camping Club (to use the original names) are two organisations that are allowed to issue exemption certificates. There are also around 350 other organisations.  Perhaps few of them would support a change to the limit.

The way the planning exemption was created would seem to require actual parliamentary time to be spent on debating, etc to change it and, as I understand it, both Houses are rather busy at the moment. It is not as if the Secretary of State is allowed to set the number and could be lobbied to vary it.

However, there is nothing to stop interested parties setting up any number of caravanning clubs that comply with the requirements in the Act and applying to be able to issue Exemption Certificates for sites to be used by their members. Seperate Exemption Certificates can be issued for tents, but I don't think the Caravan Club has ever done so. One location can be granted exemptions by more than one organisation.

Just remember before trying to tinker with the existing situation that many residents of the countryside are anti-caravan and have lots of resources and little to do with their time.

Just a small thought for all of you that are advocating and indeed encouraging, exceeding the CL limit of FIVE units per site.

What happens if, (Heaven Forbid), a fire breaks out on these overcrowded (in the eyes of the law) sites?

Would any insurance be valid?

Would there be a mad scramble to establish who was pitched Legally?

I think we are on dodgy ground there and not worth thinking about in my humble opinion.....

Funny how words change the context of posts.

Brian, nobody encouraged the exceeding of the 5 van limit without authority. You make it sound like an illegal act.

One or two suggested that the 5 van limit could be raised to 10 by the club to alleviate the falling cl numbers. Discussion took place on that and that alone. Nobody advocated it should be done regardless.

Aren’t there those who have turned a blind eye to exceeding the 5 van limit, whether mentioned here or not? In my book, their inaction is tantamount to encouraging breaching the law. 

Harry,

What do you call agreeing to pitch when it is obvious that a CL is over full? Is that not encouraging the owner to carry on breaking the terms of their agreement?

Again, may I point out to you and others, what would you do in the case of an insurance claim against the CL that is obviously breaking the terms of their agreement?

Would the insurers support such a claim? I think not. If you are prepared to take the risk, then so be it, it's your choice, sadly , it's not mine....